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this is Lou Elizondo and you are

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hi everyone and welcome back to that

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uafo podcast we're starting the gear off

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well it's the 13th of January with a

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breaking news podcast but it's a couple

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of months later than expected this is us

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talking about the UFO report the long

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delayed UFO report that was due on the

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31st of October 2022 which dropped on

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the 12th of January 2023 joining me from

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Mexico as always is Dan welcome

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hello hello I was gonna say hello in

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Spanish then but I don't want to yeah

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thank you I think you've done that last

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time yeah yeah I think we're like I

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should just I'm gonna open up from now

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on with movie quotes when you introduce

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me and and then you can try and Guess

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the Movie so for today I'm just gonna go

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for Aloe beastie

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oh is that an alien type one

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it's not I was gonna say Starship I was

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going to say Starship triples

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but oh this I am watched that in a while

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but I'll know by the end anyway so

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um we're going to the court desk and get

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it straight out and hopefully it'll be

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on the YouTube for you within 24 hours

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as well so quick turnaround on this one

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uh the plan was to have the interview

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with Chris playing that recorded

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yesterday as we speak about this out but

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literally minutes before I recorded the

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Chris the report dropped so myself and

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Chris spent 20 minutes going through the

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report at a glance and then we moved on

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to the interview previewing 2023 so it

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was a really interesting chat especially

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for those with a an an edge towards the

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science and the technology side of

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things incorporating the UFO stories as

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well and Chris dropped in some very cool

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nuggets of things that are coming in

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2023 including in around two weeks time

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a debrief article which is going to have

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an update on the Chicago O'Hare incident

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from 2005 2006.

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um and there are there may be some new

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evidence coming forward with that and

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Chris himself while said that uh it's

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not debunking it either so interesting

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so I'm looking forward to that and

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there's a few other nuggets he touched

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on as well so definitely check that one

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out but that one will go up early access

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over the weekend but it'll be out for

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all up and out for you as well folks but

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yes listen as we said Dan the report

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finally dropped around two and a half

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months overdue it just kind of came out

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of nowhere there was very little

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before were kind of of the opinion

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something was going to happen Sean

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Kirkpatrick was doing a talk wasn't your

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presentation that wasn't related but

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that seemed to get the the chatter going

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as well that it was going to come out

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not spoke about it yet folks uh

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uh as I said you know the kids are up

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early and stuff then it's Dan's night

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time and we've left the chat or even

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when we hit record to literally talk

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about it now I've had the 24 hours time

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to reflect on it I get people are a

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little bit disappointed people are a bit

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deflated it's it is sort of what I

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couple of people who were unhappy with

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me seeing that online you know

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get over it but it's just true it's kind

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of what I expected I didn't expect there

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thought would be in it and you're

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allowed to be annoyed or frustrated at

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it I'll be more annoyed or frustrated if

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the next one that's due and we'll get to

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I'm gonna get am I going to give them a

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pass can I even say that they don't give

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a if I give them a pass or not

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potentially has been the way it is I'll

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thoughts before we choose some of the

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details and numbers out of it

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this this is the report that the uaptf

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as like their last thing before being

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dissolved and turning into Arrow arrow

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selling it that way you know was an

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operational until kind of late in the

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else's late group homework here so it

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contains a really kind of minimal amount

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of information but it's it's wiping the

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Slate clean and I I get a sense of you

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fulfill the requirements from the last

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ndaa not this new one with the

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Whistleblower stuff and just get that

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what we're doing and focus on the next

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report that that's what came across to

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me here yeah and the way I looked at it

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people going back and forward online and

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seeing the frustrations and people

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listeners I was getting emails from

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people DMs with a lot of different

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different opinions largely airing on the

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it was the same thing it was almost the

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the outline of a report which we already

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to say this is what we should be doing

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and it's like yeah we knew that from

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last time but it's a different team

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that's been put together

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I don't know Dan do you know did they

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have the same less or more time than

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Travis Taylor who put together the last

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task force report

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office is you know it's understaffed

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underfunded they're just kind of get

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enrolling and getting all their eggs in

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a row so yeah I would say less time the

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the only date that's referenced in the

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document is the dates of uh you know the

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the database that they have how many UAP

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incidents and that was the 30th of

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August so I assumed that was kind of the

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cut off for them uh you know when

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everything since then was he in the next

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report do you want a horrendous analogy

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for this that's just came to mind go on

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couple of weeks out a date as well but I

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in the middle of the year

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but you really had to be farming the

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Christmas trees from January

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and now that it's June you've planted

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all the trees and all the customers have

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arrived in December to get the Christmas

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trees and they've all just kind of

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started blooming and not really fully

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following year but you went ahead and

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sold the trees anyway

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yeah and and add to that though and all

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the trees as well no appreciation for

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that one thanks Dad

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not one of my stronger efforts but yeah

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why that came tonight

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um Christmas tree food yeah it's a good

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one and it's a thematically correct one

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as well you know everyone's kind of

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yelling for the report they had to give

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um it feels almost like one step forward

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two steps back because right like you

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say yeah okay so you say they're done

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that they had to get something in so it

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was it was mandated that they had to do

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it it was late but there was no there

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was no legal requirement as we found out

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for to be submitted by that date that

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was just the date that was requested I'm

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sure there are frustrations in the

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background from those who requested that

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initially but here we are so

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as it is it almost better if there were

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no unclassified versions of these

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reports first maybe for some people

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there wouldn't be this expectation that

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there's going to be some kind of Smoking

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hearing a new documentaries coming out

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and waiting months and months for the

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documentary and when it gets released

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finding there's no Smoking Gun footage

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that proves conclusively there's alien

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life in the galaxy

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you're not going to get that and same

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skin walker Ranch you're not going to

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see the new series of Skinwalker Ranch

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and see an episode that conclusively

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proves there's a non-human intelligence

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because it's not going to happen that

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kind of stuff will be a big announcement

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online it won't be held back it'll be

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press conferences so it's it's similar

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there wasn't it to expect that from this

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found evidence of ET we'd be looking at

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like a NASA announcement European Space

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Agency you know it would be a whole kind

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of it would be a big deal you're not

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going to get that in a little PDF report

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released on a website three months late

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um there's gonna be a deeper analysis

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whether you would get the data and

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see it right like two of the pages in

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this report literally list the

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requirements from the ndaa It quotes the

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ndaa and it says you wanted this and

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we've satisfied this here you wanted

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this we've satisfied this here there

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were a few things left out but those few

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things left out were things like nuclear

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relations which is classified so that

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would be in the classified portion

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um so yeah I mean they fulfill their

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remit if if anything this shows that the

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ndaa this year the further empowers

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Arrow to kind of get data and

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collaborate and so on so forth was much

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needed and and that the next report as

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you said should be a little more

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enlightening and the report as for the

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public is it this is just the

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unclassified version that the public can

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access which is is again frustrating in

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its own way that there's an expectation

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that comes around it as if this is

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written for the people and it's not and

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it's not even for understand because we

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are not we're not American citizens

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we're not American taxpayers we are you

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know so I get why someone who's American

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is allowed to be for more frustrated

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than us because it's it's their

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government and it's their funding it's

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their tax dollars they say so it was 11

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pages but the first page was the front

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cover the second page was a table of

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contents and in the final three pages

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where the appendix so really there was

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what six pages that were the body of the

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report and it's again fair to see a lot

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of the languages just telling you what

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the remit was and let's dig into some of

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the the interests and stuff though um I

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thought what stood out straight away for

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me

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um this might not be completely in order

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but what I've got is that reporting has

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increased and this is down to two things

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largely that the increased awareness of

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threats of UAP that it could be either a

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flight risk or adversarial technology

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and also that are just stigma amongst

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those Personnel reporting essentially

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they can talk about UFOs without being

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laughed at now so more pilots and

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Personnel are free to submit reports and

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that wasn't happening in the past

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which is kind of huge right like even we

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talk about I I've heard the phrase

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nothing Burger probably like 50 times in

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the past day

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but just that alone the people are

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starting to feel like they can they can

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actually report this stuff without being

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laughed at is is huge there's official

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channels for this to be reported now

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um you know even if you think this is

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Blue Book 2.0 or something

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um it's still happening we're still in

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the modern day of communication you know

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we can hold these people to account a

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little better than we could back then so

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it's real interesting and a real step

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forward

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for me the next part that was

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interesting was the list of departments

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and organizations which

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there was input from to make the report

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however the what the input was from

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these organizations or departments isn't

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listed but you have the DIA the nro the

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NGA the NSA NASA will be a standout to

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folks the department of energy will be a

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standout to folks then of course the

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other branches of the military which are

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involved in including some more

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um

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they are forces listed but again that

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could literally be because they're an

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Air Force personnel who submitted

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reports so they are forced listed as

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giving input that's not to say they're

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suddenly all on board so that's not one

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we can disseminate too much from but

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there was a whole host of departments

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from which data was drawn which we can

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we can take from that

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um and again when you think of it

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they've had six months to put that

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together that's a hell of a lot to go

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around and then take data from request

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data look through the data collate it

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you know and again it sounds like I'm

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sympathizing with them here but I am

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just going to and in General Life folks

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I had a lot of people to be realistic

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yeah I get I was told last night that um

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I look always look at things half full

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and if it comes across that way in the

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podcast fair enough

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um I mean then I'll tell you I can be

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relatively negative at the best of times

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so I was going to say the other day you

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were only telling me that so it's funny

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that someone said oh yeah it's like I'm

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not that bigussly at all so normally I'd

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be all in and attacking them I just

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think or 4K for this one because it's a

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new team submitting the report you

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almost have to forget the task force

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report but the really the pressure's on

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for the next one to have something more

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substantive or what I really hope and

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this is I'm kind of looking at the the

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background of these reports I'm

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disappointed from the last time that

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nothing leaked I thought we might have

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had something from your Warner your

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Rubios your Jilla brands

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silently or secretly getting some

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information out I mean we just never

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heard anything more so I was kind of

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hoping maybe that would come from it and

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the more people get involved in the more

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potential funding in there is that fair

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enough

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yeah yeah for sure and and I'd love to

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see people talk about that that

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um classified version and a bit more

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about it because it seems to suggest in

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this that they've specified things like

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speed trajectory altitude you know all

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these kind of things things that we

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would love to know

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um we're still not seeing shapes and

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that's a fairly basic thing right

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um but there must be a giveaway there

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whether it's

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that they don't want no China to know

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that they know what China's drones look

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like or that they don't want to say hey

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we're seeing sources in uh training

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ranges and then people will you know

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their heads will explode

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um they seem to be holding back on that

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front for some reason yes what are the

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numbers that then first comes up is and

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this is something we can have seen on

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the reports going back to Julian Barnes

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New York Times article of which that was

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accurate and

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I don't think many folks actually denied

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it was accurate at the time it was just

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more the the narrative Julian Barnes

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chose to go down and this kind of comes

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across and interestingly the mainstream

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media who's picked up on the story today

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as you would expect it's pretty split on

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how they're reporting it either half the

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reports are completely unremarkable and

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that proves there's no sign of anything

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non-human other news agencies have

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picked up and go with almost half of

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reports submitted display

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characteristics are quite unique etc etc

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so they seem quite split how the

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reporting it was 53 unremarkable 47

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remain you know

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potentially remarkable or at least as

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yet not identified let's be fair of that

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47 there's going to be drones clutter

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balloons misidentifications and all of

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that in there as well but again we'd be

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hoping not expecting that some of that

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is going to be the the good stuff you

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would think

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yeah yeah absolutely I just agree with

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you on that pretty much yeah numbers

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don't lie do they although they do it

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sometimes there were 510 reports overall

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but this also includes the reports from

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the first UAP task force 144

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um 366 reports since the last report

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um how many days in a leap year if folks

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remember my tweet from a few months ago

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so yeah 366 reports from the last report

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some of those again if I keep saying

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that the word report here sorry I hope

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you like it in Scottish uh some of those

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reports actually predate the the task

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force report they just weren't included

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because of the date that they were

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submitted as well but we never saw any

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of the information or breakdown of those

448
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reports anyway in this release so

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essentially it was just the numbers I

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think that's maybe one of the big things

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then it's really disappointed people as

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we've been shown that there have been

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overwhelming number of Reports look at

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all this interesting information that

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we've got hold of here in number form

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and we'll tell you nothing about any of

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them

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yeah it the the lack of information is

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frustrating because it creates a vacuum

460
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that people fill with speculation you

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know this is where transparency could be

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an excellent addition uh to the

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conversation and I know you know Susan

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Goff issued a statement saying that

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their dedicated transparency but that's

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not what I'm seeing here I'm I'm seeing

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like a little bit of transparency and

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then like holding cards close to their

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chest so it would be great if we could

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be you know all treated like adults by

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these institutions

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Devil's Advocate hat on here Dan but do

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you still then understand why

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would it okay thinking out loud would it

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not be also very questionable if say

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this report came out yesterday as it had

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late but had a ton of information it was

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littered with references to non-human

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intelligencies and extraordinary

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movements and numbers that was like 20

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000 miles per hour underwater things

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like that would that not raise alarm

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bells in the other way that people would

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then be curious why all of a sudden we

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had all this information from the

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government

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yeah yeah you're probably right uh it

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would feel like a bit too to be true

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right uh so they kind of have to work

490
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with the the lowest common denominator I

491
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guess and just kind of steadily go

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forward

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um I think this is why we're seeing this

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dedication to just stats and numbers you

495
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know like the like you say the numbers

496
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don't lie unfortunately that that kind

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of lead was buried in the report that

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one line

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um that we're all interested in but

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those numbers are still there and I

501
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found it curious that they they don't

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necessarily use the word solved in this

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report they say characterized so they

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can look at something and go oh that's

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that kind of looks like it's likely cool

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will characterize that as a balloon

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um

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yeah I mean I I would hope that they

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will carry on looking at those cases to

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not just characterize them but to

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actually solve them you know yeah and

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the majority of the reports and cases

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within that 510 are from Navy and Air

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Force aviators and operators which is

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going to be pilots and those who are

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operating various pieces of equipment

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that would potentially pick up signals

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or radar that that kind of stuff that

519
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people would be aware of so that's

520
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that's not unexpected that's who you

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would expect to be deporting these kind

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of sightings anyway this this is like a

523
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thinking of the Julian Bond stuff it's a

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really good example of how you use

525
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statistics to skew numbers

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um you know here we can say oh yeah you

527
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know there was only one solved out of

528
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144 last year whereas now we've got like

529
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50 sort of isn't that great we've done

530
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better actually no now you've got you

531
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know 170 plus unsolved like this is

532
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worse like yes you're solving a lot of

533
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them but there's there's a lot more here

534
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that are on solved then you initially

535
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kind of said that 75 of Statistics are

536
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made up that's a fact so I always like

537
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that quote because it's just nonsense

538
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isn't it but I love it um interestingly

539
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this report was due on the 31st of

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October 2022 that it's supposed to be a

541
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quarterly report isn't it

542
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uh yes so they'll do one per year

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unclassified and then classified they'll

544
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do one per quarter to the Committees and

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and the officials

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does the date still stand though that

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the the next quarterly report would then

548
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be due to 31st of January

549
00:19:57,169 --> 00:19:56,100
uh yes it might have shifted slightly I

550
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:57,179
haven't sat down and worked out the

551
00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:58,559
dates but it might have shifted slightly

552
00:20:02,750 --> 00:20:00,960
since the new Andy AAA was signed in

553
00:20:04,190 --> 00:20:02,760
um but that maintains the same language

554
00:20:06,350 --> 00:20:04,200
so the dates might just stay the same

555
00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:06,360
that's maybe a question for a day Dean

556
00:20:10,490 --> 00:20:08,880
Johnson about the dates does he think

557
00:20:13,090 --> 00:20:10,500
that the dates are potentially going to

558
00:20:15,289 --> 00:20:13,100
going to move on that because

559
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,299
you're looking at the next one being due

560
00:20:20,150 --> 00:20:17,760
then in two or three weeks from from a

561
00:20:21,710 --> 00:20:20,160
classified setting but given it's been

562
00:20:23,810 --> 00:20:21,720
late do the dates even mean anything

563
00:20:25,730 --> 00:20:23,820
anymore is it just going to be a case of

564
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:25,740
you'll get it roughly every three months

565
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,080
if we can get it done

566
00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:30,480
yeah versus I suppose having two in at

567
00:20:34,970 --> 00:20:32,700
the same time right yeah um I I can say

568
00:20:37,730 --> 00:20:34,980
at the very least the the date of the

569
00:20:39,409 --> 00:20:37,740
unclassified report has changed

570
00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:39,419
um we'll be looking at like the end of

571
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,460
june-ish for that rather than Halloween

572
00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:43,679
this year Dan you might have the exact

573
00:20:47,450 --> 00:20:45,600
language for this handy but one thing I

574
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:47,460
know that was called out is uh it's

575
00:20:52,130 --> 00:20:48,960
mentioned there are no reported

576
00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:52,140
collisions even though UAP do pose a

577
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:53,400
Flight Risk

578
00:20:58,730 --> 00:20:57,360
and no reported Health implications I

579
00:21:01,610 --> 00:20:58,740
believe the word thing is is that no

580
00:21:03,289 --> 00:21:01,620
direct Health implications yeah you're

581
00:21:05,150 --> 00:21:03,299
totally right I've got this in my notes

582
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:05,160
uh regarding health concerns there have

583
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,780
also been no encounters with the UAP

584
00:21:10,430 --> 00:21:08,640
confirmed to contribute directly to

585
00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:10,440
adverse health related effects to The

586
00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:12,200
Observers so

587
00:21:17,570 --> 00:21:15,059
confirmed directly like they're the two

588
00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:17,580
words that I would say I I want to know

589
00:21:21,710 --> 00:21:19,740
okay well what unconfirmed health

590
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:21,720
conditions are there possibly what

591
00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:24,000
indirect effects on health have there

592
00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:24,900
been

593
00:21:29,810 --> 00:21:26,760
um it sounds like they're not willing to

594
00:21:32,930 --> 00:21:29,820
to commit to UAP having adverse health

595
00:21:34,010 --> 00:21:32,940
effects on observers but I mean there's

596
00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:34,020
certainly something there because

597
00:21:37,610 --> 00:21:35,820
they're using this Weasley language to

598
00:21:40,250 --> 00:21:37,620
kind of get around saying yeah we have

599
00:21:42,049 --> 00:21:40,260
some suspicions you know yeah it's it's

600
00:21:44,029 --> 00:21:42,059
a big Insurance scheme potentially when

601
00:21:45,890 --> 00:21:44,039
that comes up as well and payouts and

602
00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:45,900
we've talked before about back dating

603
00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:47,460
payouts potentially to military

604
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,980
personnel or any anyone who who had an

605
00:21:53,810 --> 00:21:51,360
encounter with one of these things and

606
00:21:55,789 --> 00:21:53,820
wasn't paid out we've heard about rare

607
00:21:57,289 --> 00:21:55,799
forms of cancers and various diseases

608
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:57,299
that have been picked up potentially

609
00:22:02,090 --> 00:21:59,760
from from an encounter as well going

610
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:02,100
back decades so that's one that's never

611
00:22:07,549 --> 00:22:05,039
going to again jump out and a report but

612
00:22:09,049 --> 00:22:07,559
I imagine that that shirt you're Gary

613
00:22:10,730 --> 00:22:09,059
Nolans and others who are working on

614
00:22:12,770 --> 00:22:10,740
those sorts of cases they have very much

615
00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:12,780
hinted at speaking and dealing with all

616
00:22:16,909 --> 00:22:14,640
sorts of individuals aren't they

617
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:16,919
yeah absolutely Gary did confirm on

618
00:22:21,289 --> 00:22:18,480
Twitter that he doesn't know the data

619
00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:21,299
set that arrow is using so it could be a

620
00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:22,740
completely different data set from Gary

621
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,900
and kitcoins work you know

622
00:22:29,810 --> 00:22:27,120
um but you would still expect there to

623
00:22:31,130 --> 00:22:29,820
be some kind of correlation present uh

624
00:22:33,289 --> 00:22:31,140
because this stuff has been just

625
00:22:35,090 --> 00:22:33,299
prevalent for God knows how many decades

626
00:22:36,649 --> 00:22:35,100
now like we know there's an adverse

627
00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:36,659
Health effect it's silly to kind of

628
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,700
dance around it was that anything else

629
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,799
outside of the three summary points

630
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:42,720
before I get to those that you you found

631
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,400
interesting

632
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:46,559
uh they mentioned working with allies

633
00:22:50,810 --> 00:22:49,080
and partners uh which makes me just

634
00:22:52,610 --> 00:22:50,820
think where the hell is the UK again you

635
00:22:54,409 --> 00:22:52,620
know we're just silent on it well I

636
00:22:56,330 --> 00:22:54,419
think we are we are animating next week

637
00:22:59,149 --> 00:22:56,340
aren't we down in London about that so

638
00:23:03,289 --> 00:23:01,130
yeah we're going to be skewing the stats

639
00:23:05,570 --> 00:23:03,299
personally for the UK so I'll be I'll be

640
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:05,580
just raming off statistics that 75 of

641
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,570
uh Gary had a really good um Gary Nolan

642
00:23:16,430 --> 00:23:13,440
that is had a really good summary

643
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,440
comment for the report uh he wrote

644
00:23:22,250 --> 00:23:18,480
that it was almost like someone someone

645
00:23:23,930 --> 00:23:22,260
said write a 2022 UAP Report with as few

646
00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:23,940
specifics as possible as you can and

647
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,500
hide the anomalous findings in a

648
00:23:29,870 --> 00:23:27,600
paragraph as an obtuse reference deep in

649
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:29,880
the output and that one line that Gary's

650
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:32,880
referring to is uh some of these and

651
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,520
they were 171 of these uh some of these

652
00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:37,440
uncharacterized UAP appear to have

653
00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:38,760
demonstrated unusual flight

654
00:23:42,049 --> 00:23:40,380
characteristics or performance

655
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:42,059
capabilities and require further

656
00:23:46,730 --> 00:23:44,880
analysis let's be honest that's what we

657
00:23:49,610 --> 00:23:46,740
want this whole report to be about is

658
00:23:52,010 --> 00:23:49,620
those incidents and Senate Intel

659
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:52,020
chairman Mark Warner issued a statement

660
00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:53,760
that was essentially kind of speaking

661
00:23:58,190 --> 00:23:56,760
about that uh the last line of which he

662
00:24:00,770 --> 00:23:58,200
said uh

663
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,780
as we work to focus resources on UAP

664
00:24:05,090 --> 00:24:02,880
reports that remain uncharacterized and

665
00:24:07,789 --> 00:24:05,100
unattributed so it's fair to say that

666
00:24:11,270 --> 00:24:07,799
Mark Warner thinks that this year's ndaa

667
00:24:13,610 --> 00:24:11,280
allows Arrow to focus up a bit onto the

668
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,620
things that we we suspect that you know

669
00:24:17,630 --> 00:24:15,120
this whole department is they're looking

670
00:24:19,610 --> 00:24:17,640
at Chris melon as well had an article

671
00:24:21,649 --> 00:24:19,620
which she covered many different aspects

672
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:21,659
of the report and I think he's he's

673
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:23,820
relatively positive he's not escaping in

674
00:24:27,230 --> 00:24:24,960
it as he was when he talked about

675
00:24:28,970 --> 00:24:27,240
calling it The Air Force back in back in

676
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,980
March I think last year in his debrief

677
00:24:32,810 --> 00:24:31,440
article and but one that I had to clip

678
00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:32,820
from it that everyone kind of picked up

679
00:24:36,169 --> 00:24:33,900
on was

680
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:36,179
um Chris melon says and I quote I've

681
00:24:40,190 --> 00:24:38,220
spoken with several credible people who

682
00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:40,200
claim the US has evidence of alien

683
00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:41,880
technology in its possession these are

684
00:24:47,390 --> 00:24:44,760
indeed exciting times so

685
00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:47,400
that's that's a nice little drop in

686
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:48,539
there from him

687
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,240
from Christopher melon uh saying it like

688
00:24:55,070 --> 00:24:53,039
it is which is always nice to see I know

689
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,080
Stephen Green Street um got he replied

690
00:24:58,970 --> 00:24:57,600
to that and and has said that uh in one

691
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,980
of his previous articles it was likely

692
00:25:01,490 --> 00:25:00,240
Eric Davis

693
00:25:02,810 --> 00:25:01,500
um and I don't doubt that as one of the

694
00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:02,820
individuals Chris melon's probably

695
00:25:06,430 --> 00:25:04,500
talking about but

696
00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:06,440
um just double checking he does say

697
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:09,480
individuals doesn't he use his Pluto uh

698
00:25:14,029 --> 00:25:11,760
I've spoken with several credible people

699
00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:14,039
so yeah it's not just Eric Davis

700
00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:15,659
um regardless of what your opinions may

701
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:17,580
or may not be on on Eric I would love to

702
00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:18,720
speak to him at some point I'm sure we

703
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:20,100
all would but

704
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:23,760
um the other being uh Louis zondo was

705
00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:26,159
out sending some tweets wasn't he

706
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,020
um he was yeah out of his self-imposed

707
00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:30,720
Exile from from the socials

708
00:25:36,590 --> 00:25:34,380
um and he did mention to a few people uh

709
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,600
that his book and we'll get to that

710
00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:39,360
would hopefully be out by the end of

711
00:25:42,289 --> 00:25:40,980
2023 as well

712
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:42,299
um I've not seen him comment on the

713
00:25:45,169 --> 00:25:43,679
report as such yet though Dan have you

714
00:25:46,909 --> 00:25:45,179
saw anything

715
00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:46,919
not so much no

716
00:25:51,409 --> 00:25:48,120
um

717
00:25:53,630 --> 00:25:51,419
yeah it would be he's kind of happy that

718
00:25:54,769 --> 00:25:53,640
it's ongoing uh from why I can gather on

719
00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:54,779
Twitter

720
00:25:59,570 --> 00:25:56,220
um you know the efforts are still

721
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,580
happening but yeah I don't think he's he

722
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:01,200
would have a glow in review otherwise

723
00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:02,820
he'd be on that kind of messaging about

724
00:26:06,110 --> 00:26:04,440
it right yeah sometimes you're about to

725
00:26:07,850 --> 00:26:06,120
hold your tongue if that's the case and

726
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,860
you know what I did think was was nice

727
00:26:11,810 --> 00:26:10,080
was it did try and Buddy the hatchet

728
00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:11,820
with a few people I saw as well which

729
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:14,460
was again good of him but I think a lot

730
00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:15,600
of people could just do with doing that

731
00:26:19,130 --> 00:26:16,740
that she didn't say do you know what

732
00:26:21,049 --> 00:26:19,140
let's just forget about let bygones be

733
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,059
bygones let's move on past the arguing

734
00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:23,039
and the pettiness and and just enjoy the

735
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:25,559
UFO topic for what it is because I'm

736
00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:26,940
sure it'll be an interesting year ahead

737
00:26:29,090 --> 00:26:27,900
and that's what we're going to talk

738
00:26:30,350 --> 00:26:29,100
about in this next half of the show

739
00:26:32,330 --> 00:26:30,360
aren't we done

740
00:26:34,010 --> 00:26:32,340
um yeah but yeah it's not worth the

741
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,020
hassle the fighting and the the stuff

742
00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:36,240
online use the mute button spellingly

743
00:26:39,950 --> 00:26:37,500
folks

744
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:39,960
um and and let's be honest like even if

745
00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:43,039
you spend 15 hours convincing Richard

746
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:45,720
44125 that there's something anomalous

747
00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:46,799
like you're probably not going to change

748
00:26:51,409 --> 00:26:48,600
their mind and stuff like that it's just

749
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,419
it's a bit fruitless to spend all your

750
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:53,520
energy uh just arguing with people

751
00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:55,440
online about this stuff yeah right sure

752
00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:56,580
there are bigger things happen Richard

753
00:27:00,649 --> 00:26:58,620
four four one two five isn't isn't that

754
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,659
great a guy but uh four four one two six

755
00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:02,880
is a long time patreon so thank you one

756
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:04,700
two sixes oh yeah

757
00:27:09,289 --> 00:27:07,320
it goes without seeing um there was a

758
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:09,299
quick summary at the end and the

759
00:27:13,970 --> 00:27:11,940
headlines from those are UAP continue to

760
00:27:16,610 --> 00:27:13,980
represent a hazard to flight safety and

761
00:27:19,789 --> 00:27:16,620
pose a possible adversario or adversary

762
00:27:21,769 --> 00:27:19,799
Collective Collective threat Arrow has

763
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:21,779
been established as the dod focal point

764
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:24,480
for UAP which we know and coordinated

765
00:27:28,970 --> 00:27:27,120
efforts between the dod the intelligence

766
00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:28,980
community and other government agencies

767
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,320
to collect and report on UAP events have

768
00:27:36,169 --> 00:27:33,840
resulted in increased data sets spanning

769
00:27:38,450 --> 00:27:36,179
multiple security domains

770
00:27:40,730 --> 00:27:38,460
my my kind of final thought in closing

771
00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:40,740
kind of statement on it Dan is that what

772
00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:44,100
we need now is consistency in the regime

773
00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:46,440
that's going to be looking after this we

774
00:27:51,649 --> 00:27:49,140
need uh we need Dr Sean Kirkpatrick

775
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:51,659
regardless of what people again may

776
00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:53,279
think or know of them but we don't know

777
00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:54,840
all that much

778
00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:55,500
um

779
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:57,419
we need time to to make sure he's the

780
00:28:00,890 --> 00:27:58,559
person that does lead this through the

781
00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:00,900
next year we need consistency we need

782
00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:02,279
the same people involved they could

783
00:28:06,649 --> 00:28:03,720
probably do us some more funding no

784
00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:06,659
doubt but the next reports have to have

785
00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:08,340
the same people investigating otherwise

786
00:28:12,049 --> 00:28:09,900
what we're going to get if there's a

787
00:28:14,390 --> 00:28:12,059
change in Personnel for the love of God

788
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,400
hopefully not another name change as you

789
00:28:18,169 --> 00:28:16,320
end up going back to this same report

790
00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:18,179
and the reports become completely

791
00:28:22,430 --> 00:28:20,340
useless and that is when you have to use

792
00:28:24,049 --> 00:28:22,440
the phrase nothing Burger

793
00:28:25,850 --> 00:28:24,059
um because that that would then just be

794
00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:25,860
an utter waste of time to have different

795
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:28,200
people going back over writing the same

796
00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:31,200
square run reports to say yep we have to

797
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:33,179
write better reports and we have some

798
00:28:36,350 --> 00:28:34,799
data and we're going to look into it but

799
00:28:39,049 --> 00:28:36,360
then by the next time the next one comes

800
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,059
along you're back to square one

801
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:41,279
yeah I I would completely agree with

802
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:43,980
that consistency uh you know people are

803
00:28:47,149 --> 00:28:46,020
not getting complacent with it

804
00:28:49,850 --> 00:28:47,159
um and

805
00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:49,860
next report is going to be outside of

806
00:28:54,169 --> 00:28:52,440
the hands of the the dod and the odni

807
00:28:56,029 --> 00:28:54,179
there so it'll be submitted by this

808
00:28:58,669 --> 00:28:56,039
Equity to defense

809
00:29:00,110 --> 00:28:58,679
um so we should we should see a lot more

810
00:29:01,789 --> 00:29:00,120
kind of

811
00:29:03,529 --> 00:29:01,799
I don't want to say transparency because

812
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,539
people will expect you know pictures of

813
00:29:08,090 --> 00:29:05,520
alien bodies and things like that but a

814
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:08,100
bit more of a robust report I'll say Dan

815
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,840
knock knock

816
00:29:15,289 --> 00:29:12,240
who's there the year ahead let's let it

817
00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:15,299
in and discuss 2023. uh we're going to

818
00:29:17,810 --> 00:29:16,620
look at some of the stories this was

819
00:29:20,029 --> 00:29:17,820
going to make up the bigger part of the

820
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:20,039
show but with the oh well should we look

821
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:22,200
at the slideshow first no

822
00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:25,320
yeah yeah let's go for it uh

823
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:26,940
I'll leave my joke in when it was but

824
00:29:35,870 --> 00:29:29,840
it's now completely redundant thanks

825
00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:35,880
2020. yeah it's a 2023 20 23 thing yeah

826
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,700
2020 so you stay and go on what is it

827
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:40,559
what is it is it George Noory says pull

828
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:42,840
up a chair that are stories to tell yeah

829
00:29:53,810 --> 00:29:51,590
so yeah uh Dr Sean Kirkpatrick director

830
00:29:56,029 --> 00:29:53,820
of Arrow presented to the transportation

831
00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:56,039
research board at the National Academy

832
00:30:00,590 --> 00:29:58,380
of engineering uh last Wednesday on the

833
00:30:02,090 --> 00:30:00,600
11th of January and he gave a report

834
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:02,100
that was potentially a little more

835
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:04,559
interesting uh than the UAP report that

836
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:07,919
was released it seems that when Dr

837
00:30:13,130 --> 00:30:10,620
Kirkpatrick is on his own he's willing

838
00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:13,140
to speak a bit more widely about this

839
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,279
subject

840
00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:16,320
so for example

841
00:30:20,450 --> 00:30:18,059
um in in this

842
00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:20,460
report he built a presentation he

843
00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:22,860
discussed arrows aims their methods what

844
00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:25,740
they hope to achieve he defined UAP as

845
00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:28,140
sources of anomalous spaceborne Airborne

846
00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:30,600
Seaborn or transmedium observations that

847
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:32,760
are not yet attributable to known actors

848
00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:35,279
or causes which is a bit of a wider

849
00:30:40,610 --> 00:30:38,460
definition that was in the ndaa there

850
00:30:42,110 --> 00:30:40,620
he lists a bunch of vital questions for

851
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:42,120
the intelligence community and for

852
00:30:46,730 --> 00:30:44,820
science with regard to UAP so they want

853
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:46,740
to know about the technical behavior and

854
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,360
contextual characteristics of the

855
00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:49,919
phenomena the composition the movement

856
00:30:55,970 --> 00:30:52,500
the capabilities the vulnerabilities the

857
00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:55,980
tech gap between the us and it hazards

858
00:30:58,909 --> 00:30:56,580
um

859
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:58,919
indications of foreign observation and

860
00:31:03,169 --> 00:31:01,440
reaction to the phenomena too and he

861
00:31:04,490 --> 00:31:03,179
also talks about the disposition of the

862
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,500
phenomena which is interesting because

863
00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:06,960
the disposition usually requires like an

864
00:31:10,130 --> 00:31:08,520
intelligent control you know to feel

865
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,140
whether it's a threat or whether it's

866
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:12,720
chill out and peaceful and stuff like

867
00:31:15,529 --> 00:31:13,679
that

868
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:15,539
there's a really interesting line in

869
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:18,600
there that says the consequence of uaps

870
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:20,220
in the vicinity of strategic

871
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,140
capabilities is high potentially

872
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,720
threatened and strategic deterrence and

873
00:31:29,210 --> 00:31:26,880
safety of Civil Society he's talking

874
00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:29,220
about nuclear weapons here and he's

875
00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:30,600
doing so vaguely but that's really

876
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:32,279
interesting that he's actually getting

877
00:31:35,389 --> 00:31:33,840
that in there instead of just leaving it

878
00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:35,399
out entirely because it's it's something

879
00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:37,080
that's highly classified

880
00:31:41,330 --> 00:31:39,059
he highlights that he's worried the

881
00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:41,340
foreign actors will attribute UAP to the

882
00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:43,860
USA technology which is again is really

883
00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:46,020
interesting in and of itself because if

884
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:47,640
other countries are seeing them and here

885
00:31:51,289 --> 00:31:49,080
he is saying I don't want them to think

886
00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:51,299
that's us who is it there's an

887
00:31:55,490 --> 00:31:52,980
implication there that that could do

888
00:31:57,730 --> 00:31:55,500
some questioning from journalists he

889
00:32:00,169 --> 00:31:57,740
linked to a

890
00:32:02,269 --> 00:32:00,179
1994-2010 because it was updated article

891
00:32:04,610 --> 00:32:02,279
about China calling for international

892
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,620
collaboration which I thought was really

893
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,720
interesting uh you know usually

894
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:08,880
collaborating with countries like China

895
00:32:12,649 --> 00:32:10,799
who they consider an adversary in many

896
00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:12,659
ways would be off the table but here he

897
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:15,000
is highlighting that a bunch of

898
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,240
scientists uh had a meeting there and

899
00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:19,919
decided yeah you know we need to get a

900
00:32:24,169 --> 00:32:21,240
worldwide

901
00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:24,179
kind of study on this going

902
00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:26,580
he highlighted that he's interested in

903
00:32:30,590 --> 00:32:28,020
potential Communications and

904
00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:30,600
coordination between UAP which is again

905
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:34,200
interesting and he he speaks about

906
00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:37,500
what they expect in UAP reports so this

907
00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:39,059
stuff I assume would be in the

908
00:32:42,889 --> 00:32:40,860
classified section for each of these

909
00:32:45,049 --> 00:32:42,899
incidents the hundreds of incidents that

910
00:32:46,730 --> 00:32:45,059
were specified in the report so he'd

911
00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:46,740
want location a description of the

912
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:49,020
events the advanced capabilities and

913
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:50,640
characteristics include in the physical

914
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:53,039
state of whether it's a solid a liquid

915
00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:56,580
or a plasma and that excites me because

916
00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:58,740
there's a lot of connection between

917
00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:01,919
earthlights plasma and UAP and not

918
00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:03,720
necessarily in like a doorway either to

919
00:33:07,370 --> 00:33:05,159
just say oh yeah it's bull lightning but

920
00:33:08,750 --> 00:33:07,380
in a more of a fascinating wow these

921
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:08,760
things are capable of a lot is that

922
00:33:11,409 --> 00:33:10,080
thought that aimed at me that dull

923
00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:11,419
comment

924
00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:14,519
no not at all

925
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,260
um they want to know if they're under

926
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:18,720
intelligent control uh they want to know

927
00:33:23,389 --> 00:33:20,580
the UAP performance including the path

928
00:33:25,009 --> 00:33:23,399
trajectory speed altitude lots of

929
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:25,019
information from The Observers as well

930
00:33:28,909 --> 00:33:26,760
like the effects on the Observer any

931
00:33:30,649 --> 00:33:28,919
other observers who were affected so

932
00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:30,659
this is a lot more intriguing than the

933
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,279
report is because they're essentially

934
00:33:36,409 --> 00:33:34,320
detailing things that

935
00:33:38,029 --> 00:33:36,419
you know we we all want to know this

936
00:33:40,669 --> 00:33:38,039
this is the stuff we want to know like

937
00:33:43,250 --> 00:33:40,679
was there a UAP traveling 30 000 miles

938
00:33:44,930 --> 00:33:43,260
an hour if yes it's probably you know

939
00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:44,940
not Hypersonic if it's doing a right

940
00:33:49,310 --> 00:33:46,500
angle turn if they list that in the

941
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,320
report the gloves are off right

942
00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:51,360
so yeah I mean that that was a really

943
00:33:54,669 --> 00:33:52,380
great

944
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:54,679
presentation and snuck in there as well

945
00:34:00,169 --> 00:33:57,840
was the new logo for Arrow did you see

946
00:34:02,210 --> 00:34:00,179
this yes I saw the translation as well I

947
00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:02,220
think Ronnie Renee had translated it the

948
00:34:06,049 --> 00:34:04,140
first time when I saw

949
00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:06,059
that's right so I did a bit of a digging

950
00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:07,500
around on this because I was like surely

951
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:09,300
this can't be like the first place this

952
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:11,099
this quote popped up

953
00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:14,399
um and uh Marcus Aurelius uh you know

954
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:17,159
the the old the old philosopher there

955
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:19,080
um he it's a line that he wrote our life

956
00:34:23,810 --> 00:34:21,300
is what our thoughts may get

957
00:34:25,849 --> 00:34:23,820
um and he was talking about kind of the

958
00:34:29,089 --> 00:34:25,859
the idea of what we see being accurate

959
00:34:32,089 --> 00:34:29,099
because of how we View events is

960
00:34:33,649 --> 00:34:32,099
affected by our personal perspective so

961
00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:33,659
several people can witness an event and

962
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:35,700
describe it differently since they see

963
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,960
it in different ways because they've

964
00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:38,399
grown up with a different life and a

965
00:34:41,629 --> 00:34:40,139
different attitude so that's kind of

966
00:34:43,129 --> 00:34:41,639
what that's alluding to as opposed to

967
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:43,139
you know changing the universe with your

968
00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:45,300
Consciousness however that's that's Tom

969
00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:48,060
delong's train of thought isn't it that

970
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:50,460
you can literally manifest the universe

971
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,520
and reality by by thinking it and that's

972
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,200
what I went with

973
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,839
it made me think of um that Angels

974
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,520
Angels and Airwaves message that they

975
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:01,200
play at the end of shows and and I just

976
00:35:03,410 --> 00:35:02,400
listed it here because I was going to

977
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:03,420
read it because I think there's an

978
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:05,160
interesting possible connection between

979
00:35:08,810 --> 00:35:07,020
the two please do because I think both

980
00:35:12,670 --> 00:35:08,820
the other angels and areas fans listen

981
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,130
I know they're popular

982
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:18,480
um so basically the context is uh before

983
00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:20,880
the last two songs of the set on some of

984
00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:23,400
the nights during the 2019 tour uh the

985
00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:24,900
lights dimmed in an ethereal sound

986
00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:27,000
invoice kind of emitted from the

987
00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:28,200
speakers

988
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:30,780
um and this is what it said hello we

989
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:32,040
would like you to know that you were

990
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,900
part of a grand experiment it is called

991
00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:35,760
Humanity inside of you there is

992
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,800
something called a soul it is one piece

993
00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:40,079
of a unified mind some call this mind

994
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,420
God some call it the source but both are

995
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:44,880
correct it is light it is pure love it

996
00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:46,380
is each star Born Into the infinite

997
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:48,540
Blackness of space your soul is an

998
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:50,280
antenna that allows you to connect to

999
00:35:54,349 --> 00:35:52,140
the light to all that is known and to

1000
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:54,359
all that will be this connection is the

1001
00:35:57,950 --> 00:35:55,920
strongest during times of pain and

1002
00:36:00,829 --> 00:35:57,960
heartache for this is when we shall

1003
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:00,839
learn the most during this show your

1004
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,220
minds have synced up to the same

1005
00:36:06,349 --> 00:36:04,320
frequencies to the same electromagnetic

1006
00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:06,359
patterns when we are connected like this

1007
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:07,740
we can achieve wonders beyond

1008
00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:09,900
imagination we can initiate Miracles

1009
00:36:13,370 --> 00:36:12,060
only then can we experience this

1010
00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:13,380
physical life in the way we were

1011
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:16,140
intended to as a soul in a physical body

1012
00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:17,760
using these connection to change the

1013
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:18,780
world

1014
00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:21,060
life from New York it's Saturday night

1015
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:22,920
yeah

1016
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,160
Dan's opening monologue no you you've

1017
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:28,079
told me that before and clearly Tom's

1018
00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:29,280
trying to drop in some of the things

1019
00:36:33,290 --> 00:36:31,320
that he's known knows or learned or are

1020
00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:33,300
pieced together and folks should go back

1021
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:34,680
and check out some of the shows we've

1022
00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:36,540
done on Tom Delong as a profile that

1023
00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:38,220
we've not went back and finished off yet

1024
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,260
but I'd like to leave that to a later

1025
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,720
point where I think there's Maybe

1026
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:45,119
maybe more to talk about and and put

1027
00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:46,920
together as a finished piece I think

1028
00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:48,900
we'll see some other Tom this year in

1029
00:36:53,569 --> 00:36:51,240
the media especially as monsters in

1030
00:36:55,370 --> 00:36:53,579
California gets a release I think maybe

1031
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:55,380
finally we get Tom back out talking a

1032
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:56,640
little bit more

1033
00:36:59,810 --> 00:36:57,660
um

1034
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,820
and blink are huge as well right like

1035
00:37:03,290 --> 00:37:01,680
they they're enormous

1036
00:37:04,609 --> 00:37:03,300
um judging by the success of the later

1037
00:37:08,290 --> 00:37:04,619
single which has been at the top of the

1038
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,300
charts in the US for like 10 weeks

1039
00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:10,800
alternative charts that's right um but

1040
00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:12,180
yeah they it seems that they're bigger

1041
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:14,760
than ever and as Tom's traveling the

1042
00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:16,079
world and doing interviews he's going to

1043
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,640
be asked about this stuff and he's going

1044
00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:19,680
to be speaking about it very frankly

1045
00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:21,480
um and it's kind of exciting that he

1046
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:24,780
maybe isn't around these people with

1047
00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:27,119
um you know classified kind of need to

1048
00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:30,180
know uh clearances because it just means

1049
00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:32,220
that he can speak a bit more freely so

1050
00:37:35,089 --> 00:37:34,140
Dad let's rattle through some of the

1051
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:35,099
things we're going to look forward to

1052
00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:37,680
then in 2023 okay

1053
00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:39,480
um we'll call some out and then we'll

1054
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:40,740
just get through them in a kind of quick

1055
00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:42,420
fire type format but is there any kind

1056
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:43,980
of big ones you'd like to touch on first

1057
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:46,800
that you think could could make up the

1058
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:49,200
you know what at the end of 2023 when

1059
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,060
we're doing that highlight show what are

1060
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:53,040
we going to be talking about

1061
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,960
so I think firstly the big thing for me

1062
00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:56,880
would be Jay Stratton coming out Jay

1063
00:38:01,550 --> 00:37:58,500
Stratton was the the head of the UAP

1064
00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:01,560
task force uh he was involved in OSAP at

1065
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,960
Skinwalker Ranch he's the guy who did

1066
00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:06,000
the initial write-up on the Tic Tac

1067
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:07,260
event

1068
00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:08,520
um and he loved it because there were

1069
00:38:13,870 --> 00:38:11,400
multiple sensors and so on so forth uh

1070
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:13,880
he's going to be speaking at alien car

1071
00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:17,339
and and that's in March or uh March 4th

1072
00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:19,859
to fifth in passage I don't know he was

1073
00:38:24,109 --> 00:38:21,000
speaking there

1074
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,119
oh yeah so I mean we've heard for a

1075
00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:25,920
number of years that he will eventually

1076
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:27,960
come out speaking but yeah it seems this

1077
00:38:31,609 --> 00:38:29,400
year is the year that he's going to come

1078
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:31,619
out swinging so I'm I think we're going

1079
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:33,119
to be looking back on a lot of what Jay

1080
00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:35,579
has to say and share with us and you

1081
00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:37,320
know ruminating on it uh just because

1082
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:39,660
this is the guy that was in the know

1083
00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:40,560
yeah

1084
00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:42,780
um he was basically

1085
00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:45,960
Lou Elizondo before Lou wasn't he and

1086
00:38:55,609 --> 00:38:48,119
that that role is it Lou took over from

1087
00:39:00,589 --> 00:38:57,829
etc etc before anyone starts sending the

1088
00:39:04,210 --> 00:39:00,599
messages but to keep things simple

1089
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:04,220
boss up then it went to atip potentially

1090
00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:07,260
Lou took over from Jay Stratton so let's

1091
00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:09,300
just yeah leave that one there

1092
00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:10,020
um

1093
00:39:14,690 --> 00:39:11,880
but yeah and just to throw in as well

1094
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,700
Jay Stratton is Axelrod in the book uh

1095
00:39:17,630 --> 00:39:16,320
skinwalkers of the Pentagon so that's

1096
00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:17,640
worth the read because it add little

1097
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:19,619
tidbits like the following

1098
00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:22,440
um there's a bit where Axelrod uh

1099
00:39:26,810 --> 00:39:24,660
details that his son was woken up by a

1100
00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:26,820
bright light in his room uh his son Paul

1101
00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:28,680
might not be his real name there used in

1102
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,839
the book but uh Paul was kept up all

1103
00:39:35,089 --> 00:39:33,119
night by blue and red orbs swiping at

1104
00:39:37,370 --> 00:39:35,099
him and left these these left like red

1105
00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:37,380
contusions on his body he tried to yell

1106
00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:39,300
but he couldn't he never saw the faces

1107
00:39:42,970 --> 00:39:41,460
of these kind of two or three shadow

1108
00:39:46,250 --> 00:39:42,980
people that were in the room with him

1109
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:46,260
and Paul is a little bit kind of deaf

1110
00:39:51,050 --> 00:39:48,060
and he said that he could hear these

1111
00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:51,060
shadow figures screaming and when he was

1112
00:39:54,050 --> 00:39:52,680
asked about you know how can we didn't

1113
00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:54,060
hear the screaming he was like oh it

1114
00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:56,220
wasn't audible it was in my mind

1115
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,260
that gives me chills when I say it but

1116
00:40:02,329 --> 00:40:00,480
like there's a lot of weirdness that's

1117
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:02,339
going to come out with Jay share and his

1118
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:03,839
story I think yeah that'll be

1119
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,160
interesting to see how much of it he

1120
00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:07,200
wants to go into in detail and listen

1121
00:40:11,569 --> 00:40:09,839
everyone who's got a podcast a blogger

1122
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:11,579
you know as someone on Twitter is

1123
00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:12,960
tagging them and saying welcome to

1124
00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:14,339
Twitter with the hope that when he

1125
00:40:18,109 --> 00:40:16,320
follows them and two uh that he gives

1126
00:40:19,849 --> 00:40:18,119
him some kind of interview I think it's

1127
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:19,859
one of those just letting see what it

1128
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:21,720
what he wants to do but if folks are

1129
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:24,420
cordial and kind of again appreciate

1130
00:40:28,190 --> 00:40:25,920
what you've got when you have access to

1131
00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:28,200
these types of individuals

1132
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,180
um as much as they carry a form of

1133
00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:32,160
celebrity status as much as they're very

1134
00:40:36,410 --> 00:40:34,020
well known and they've been involved in

1135
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:36,420
something you want to know more about so

1136
00:40:40,250 --> 00:40:38,160
um hopefully Jay gets himself out there

1137
00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:40,260
at least on a few platforms and again

1138
00:40:44,990 --> 00:40:42,420
for me the bigger the better I I like to

1139
00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:45,000
see these folks on on your rogans of the

1140
00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:46,920
world and Lex Friedman because they hold

1141
00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:49,740
massive audiences and it gets folks

1142
00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:51,180
interested in the subject who maybe

1143
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,660
don't hear my show or Vinnies or Ryan

1144
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:56,640
Spriggs or The Black Vault you know all

1145
00:41:01,490 --> 00:40:59,760
but again for us it trickles down so any

1146
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:01,500
news is good news in the UF world like

1147
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,839
that so I I'm hoping like you see Jay

1148
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,760
Stratton comes out and speaks

1149
00:41:09,290 --> 00:41:07,680
um or maybe even sends a tweet since he

1150
00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:09,300
joined Twitter about 14 years ago

1151
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,920
according to his bio

1152
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,720
um but has just locked in the background

1153
00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:14,160
hasn't he

1154
00:41:18,530 --> 00:41:16,859
yeah just just watching this year Dan so

1155
00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:18,540
we've got the report we're expecting

1156
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,760
that there should be several classified

1157
00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:22,800
reports released of which we might hear

1158
00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:24,420
some stuff and there'll be another

1159
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,420
unclassified report due by the 31st of

1160
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,520
October again would that be correct uh

1161
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,160
and end of June end of June oh okay yeah

1162
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:35,280
um a bit earlier also I'm just rounding

1163
00:41:40,370 --> 00:41:37,920
up politically here uh the potential for

1164
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,380
Congressional hearings with the ndaa

1165
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:42,960
language allowing for whistleblowers to

1166
00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:44,880
potentially come forward however it's

1167
00:41:48,650 --> 00:41:46,320
got to be said that that would likely be

1168
00:41:50,690 --> 00:41:48,660
in a classified setting again I doubt

1169
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:50,700
we're going to see a YouTube live stream

1170
00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:52,920
of whistleblowers standing talking about

1171
00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:55,320
special access programs in the middle of

1172
00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:56,940
Senator Congress or whether it might be

1173
00:42:00,109 --> 00:41:58,980
held so but again I think that can only

1174
00:42:02,270 --> 00:42:00,119
be a good thing in the background

1175
00:42:04,670 --> 00:42:02,280
because that's really for me that seems

1176
00:42:07,250 --> 00:42:04,680
the next level up politically to really

1177
00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:07,260
get those folks out and talking

1178
00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:09,900
yeah absolutely along with that I think

1179
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:11,339
we're going to see some new legislation

1180
00:42:15,530 --> 00:42:13,140
this year closing some of the loopholes

1181
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,540
that are kind of present

1182
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:17,040
um you know this year was kind of the

1183
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:18,480
carrot saying hey come forward we can

1184
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:19,800
protect you next year it's going to be

1185
00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:21,119
hey you didn't come forward we're going

1186
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,380
to start hitting the door down with

1187
00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:24,720
Sticks and Bricks and you know you know

1188
00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:26,220
we we know where these programs are

1189
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:27,660
because we've been told by some people

1190
00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:30,480
uh it's gonna be interesting to see if

1191
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,339
they get kind of stuck between a rock

1192
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:35,280
and a hard place in terms of if someone

1193
00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:39,180
reports a you know a an sap uh special

1194
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:41,160
access program that's off the books to

1195
00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:44,640
Arrow Arrow required to report that to

1196
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:47,700
Congress within 72 hours so this could

1197
00:42:52,310 --> 00:42:49,740
out a whole load of programs maybe not

1198
00:42:54,829 --> 00:42:52,320
even UAP related uh you know we could

1199
00:42:57,470 --> 00:42:54,839
see a whole bunch of uh well crap people

1200
00:42:59,690 --> 00:42:57,480
let's be fair would we ever actually see

1201
00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,700
that because let's just say some special

1202
00:43:04,430 --> 00:43:02,400
access programs are Unearthed by people

1203
00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:04,440
who think they they're aware or know

1204
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:05,640
something that Congress should know

1205
00:43:09,470 --> 00:43:07,920
about there's still potential surely and

1206
00:43:12,109 --> 00:43:09,480
this is where my political knowledge

1207
00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:12,119
just stops but surely

1208
00:43:16,250 --> 00:43:14,280
if there was stuff that people in the

1209
00:43:18,589 --> 00:43:16,260
Air Force were working on in a small

1210
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,599
subsection small group that they could

1211
00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:20,400
go to Congress and say look we're

1212
00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:21,660
working on something here that should

1213
00:43:26,569 --> 00:43:23,880
not be coming out here is the basic

1214
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,579
reason why due to X Y and Z then you

1215
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,839
don't you don't find out about it

1216
00:43:31,069 --> 00:43:29,520
regardless what it is because it could

1217
00:43:33,170 --> 00:43:31,079
be something regarding nuclear weapons

1218
00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:33,180
nuclear secrets it could be some kind of

1219
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,500
technology that is just nothing to do

1220
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,760
with UFOs

1221
00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:37,680
you know that that kind of stuff still

1222
00:43:41,690 --> 00:43:39,180
isn't going to come out

1223
00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:41,700
yeah exactly what we would see in the

1224
00:43:45,050 --> 00:43:43,560
report something like oh we've received

1225
00:43:47,569 --> 00:43:45,060
several reports through the secure

1226
00:43:48,829 --> 00:43:47,579
system of interesting things and that

1227
00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:48,839
would be it yeah probably you know

1228
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:51,420
unless someone deems it okay for them to

1229
00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:53,040
talk about in a public setting which is

1230
00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:55,319
all about the executive and Congress and

1231
00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:56,700
you know that's down to the officials

1232
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,680
that are processes in place to clear

1233
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,960
things to talk about publicly but yeah

1234
00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:02,160
you're right it's not it's not

1235
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:05,400
guaranteed though a slight tease for the

1236
00:44:08,450 --> 00:44:06,839
Chris played interview folks if you've

1237
00:44:10,609 --> 00:44:08,460
not heard it yet uh when this comes out

1238
00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:10,619
on the Early Access listen to it when it

1239
00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:11,700
comes out

1240
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:13,560
um Chris there was an article about

1241
00:44:18,050 --> 00:44:15,960
potential warp drive

1242
00:44:19,730 --> 00:44:18,060
um I don't know I asked them sorry that

1243
00:44:21,710 --> 00:44:19,740
was separate I asked them was there

1244
00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:21,720
anything he worked on last year that

1245
00:44:25,370 --> 00:44:23,339
didn't come to fruition

1246
00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:25,380
and he said he was trying to get an

1247
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,260
article out that are very very

1248
00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:30,480
mainstream scientist was working with

1249
00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:33,480
some very high energy equipment and

1250
00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:35,160
they've had some extremely interesting

1251
00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:37,319
results where essentially they've

1252
00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:40,920
managed to float items like ping pong

1253
00:44:44,809 --> 00:44:43,500
balls and bits of wood and such and

1254
00:44:47,329 --> 00:44:44,819
Chris said to him you know so

1255
00:44:49,790 --> 00:44:47,339
anti-gravity and apparently they hate

1256
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:49,800
that term but yes that's that's

1257
00:44:53,870 --> 00:44:51,900
essentially

1258
00:44:56,569 --> 00:44:53,880
scientists seem to like uh you know

1259
00:45:03,730 --> 00:44:56,579
anti-gravity but like a repulsion Force

1260
00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:06,410
that's really exciting um not to see

1261
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:08,220
that's a special Access program but yeah

1262
00:45:11,329 --> 00:45:09,599
that was something Chris mentioned was

1263
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:11,339
was kind of relevant so slight teaser

1264
00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:12,480
for that it gives it a little bit more

1265
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:14,760
detail on it but yeah there's all kinds

1266
00:45:17,630 --> 00:45:15,780
of things that are going to be worked on

1267
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:17,640
that we're not going to hear about

1268
00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:19,560
um and a lot of even the classified UFO

1269
00:45:22,130 --> 00:45:20,940
stuff isn't going to come out because

1270
00:45:24,589 --> 00:45:22,140
that's the whole point of it being

1271
00:45:26,750 --> 00:45:24,599
classified we might just get some crumbs

1272
00:45:28,849 --> 00:45:26,760
off the back of that which would be good

1273
00:45:30,050 --> 00:45:28,859
doobie then and I suppose this is my

1274
00:45:32,450 --> 00:45:30,060
last one for the political side of

1275
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,460
things Dan do we get any further leaks

1276
00:45:34,990 --> 00:45:34,319
of photos or videos because let's be

1277
00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:35,000
fair

1278
00:45:43,730 --> 00:45:39,420
2022 was pretty lacking in terms of no

1279
00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:45,349
I mean that's a good point I would

1280
00:45:49,550 --> 00:45:47,640
expect I mean Jeremy colbell and judge

1281
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,560
Knapp have have hinted that they're

1282
00:45:54,829 --> 00:45:51,119
about to take the gloves off and kind of

1283
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:54,839
start talking about the things that

1284
00:45:58,490 --> 00:45:57,359
Sailors and servicemen gave to them in

1285
00:46:01,309 --> 00:45:58,500
interviews when they were talking about

1286
00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:01,319
like the Omaha transmedium uh ball case

1287
00:46:05,569 --> 00:46:03,900
and and things like that so we should

1288
00:46:08,569 --> 00:46:05,579
start hearing a bit more of that

1289
00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:08,579
detail-wise but one thing that it

1290
00:46:12,589 --> 00:46:10,260
probably won't contain photos or videos

1291
00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:12,599
but it will be a huge thing anyway

1292
00:46:16,849 --> 00:46:15,180
um is the the report going all the way

1293
00:46:18,109 --> 00:46:16,859
back to 45

1294
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,119
um looking at the intelligence community

1295
00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:20,400
and government involvement in UAP stuff

1296
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:22,920
we should expect that this year and that

1297
00:46:26,089 --> 00:46:25,200
will kind of contain hopefully a lot of

1298
00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:26,099
detail

1299
00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:28,020
um but then I can't even guarantee the

1300
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,460
we're gonna see that you know that might

1301
00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:31,200
just be a closed off document I saw

1302
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,540
online a few people mentioning that

1303
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,280
you shouldn't go back to 45 because

1304
00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:37,680
Roswell was 47 but the Trinity case

1305
00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:39,480
which I've got the brick there and

1306
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,460
someone had posted online just copies of

1307
00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:43,200
Trinity this book here going for over

1308
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:46,260
200 now on Amazon which because of the

1309
00:46:49,069 --> 00:46:47,520
interest in that case which is

1310
00:46:51,790 --> 00:46:49,079
disgusting because I'm selling them for

1311
00:46:54,170 --> 00:46:51,800
150 if anyone wants it

1312
00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:54,180
it means it's a copy that says not for

1313
00:46:58,910 --> 00:46:56,460
resale as well so really special

1314
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:58,920
um but yeah no that's that's based on uh

1315
00:47:04,010 --> 00:47:01,200
Jacques villain Paola Harris's work on

1316
00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:04,020
the Trinity case from 1945. I think

1317
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,180
you're going to get limited limited

1318
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:08,880
success or limited data from going back

1319
00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:10,319
that far

1320
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,900
um however oh God I don't want to spoil

1321
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:14,400
everything in the Chris plane interview

1322
00:47:19,309 --> 00:47:17,220
we talked about the ligo the waves uh

1323
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:19,319
the ligo measurements being used for

1324
00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:22,319
gravitational waves and I asked them

1325
00:47:26,329 --> 00:47:24,180
could given that's going to be used to

1326
00:47:29,170 --> 00:47:26,339
look out into the Milky Way could we use

1327
00:47:32,510 --> 00:47:29,180
that a lot more locally and for example

1328
00:47:34,430 --> 00:47:32,520
the the Chicago hair event Chicago

1329
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,440
O'Hare event we talked about happened 16

1330
00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:36,480
17 years ago if something like that

1331
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:38,220
happened could we use those lasers more

1332
00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:40,440
locally and he said he didn't think they

1333
00:47:43,849 --> 00:47:42,540
could use those ones that are set up but

1334
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,859
there is something they're working on

1335
00:47:47,390 --> 00:47:45,839
that it was talking about as well

1336
00:47:49,790 --> 00:47:47,400
and

1337
00:47:52,190 --> 00:47:49,800
that's where I wonder

1338
00:47:55,609 --> 00:47:52,200
looking back I don't think we need to go

1339
00:47:57,410 --> 00:47:55,619
back that far because 2005 2006 even

1340
00:47:59,870 --> 00:47:57,420
going back to 97 with the Phoenix Lights

1341
00:48:01,790 --> 00:47:59,880
we would have had very good satellite

1342
00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:01,800
technology we would have been able to

1343
00:48:06,109 --> 00:48:03,900
the reconnaissance in orbit would have

1344
00:48:07,609 --> 00:48:06,119
been really good still much much better

1345
00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:07,619
than it would have been in the 60s 70s

1346
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,660
80s and such before we had satellites up

1347
00:48:13,970 --> 00:48:12,000
there so surely we could look at what

1348
00:48:16,190 --> 00:48:13,980
was over Chicago at that time

1349
00:48:18,290 --> 00:48:16,200
what did we pick up entering the orbit

1350
00:48:19,309 --> 00:48:18,300
you know again what did we pick up in

1351
00:48:21,890 --> 00:48:19,319
terms of

1352
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:21,900
ballistic missile uh places on the

1353
00:48:25,309 --> 00:48:23,339
coasts but did they track anything

1354
00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:25,319
leaving the atmosphere going into orbit

1355
00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:27,240
and surely there would be data for those

1356
00:48:31,849 --> 00:48:29,220
events that's as far back as you you

1357
00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:31,859
need to go never mind looking at 1945

1358
00:48:36,290 --> 00:48:33,960
and 1947 because I imagine a lot of that

1359
00:48:37,970 --> 00:48:36,300
stuff's just not going to be there now

1360
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:37,980
and and that's kind of one of the points

1361
00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:39,960
that Jay Stratton made about the the Tic

1362
00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:42,300
Tac case you know how much data was that

1363
00:48:45,890 --> 00:48:44,220
further than that yeah like so many

1364
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,900
different boat stores so many different

1365
00:48:49,069 --> 00:48:47,280
Personnel it was on so many different

1366
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:49,079
systems you can really kind of get a

1367
00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:50,400
handle on it

1368
00:48:54,770 --> 00:48:52,500
um I say someone ironically because we

1369
00:48:57,470 --> 00:48:54,780
don't have a handle on it uh but there's

1370
00:48:59,630 --> 00:48:57,480
two handles on the bottom oh yeah that's

1371
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,640
what they are they just pick up things

1372
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,640
um I'm reading a three body problem at

1373
00:49:06,290 --> 00:49:04,079
the moment as I keep saying it's taking

1374
00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:06,300
me a while but they actually make a ship

1375
00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:09,000
in three body problem that can transmit

1376
00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:10,980
gravitational waves and it is a perfect

1377
00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:12,900
Tic Tac shape which I thought was was

1378
00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:14,520
interesting apparently that shape is

1379
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:17,940
quite kind of amenable to to generate in

1380
00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:19,440
these gravitational waves if given

1381
00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:21,540
enough power let's jump on if media then

1382
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:23,160
for this year because this is one thing

1383
00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:24,480
I like talking about this kind of stuff

1384
00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:26,220
what are you excited for in terms of

1385
00:49:29,450 --> 00:49:27,660
media that's going to come up I've got

1386
00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:29,460
four or five things here in terms of

1387
00:49:33,650 --> 00:49:30,900
documentaries movies

1388
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,660
um a book and a Netflix series

1389
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:35,280
um and then one sort of outside one

1390
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:36,240
that's just because it's been on the

1391
00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:38,520
radar for a while lol

1392
00:49:42,589 --> 00:49:40,500
um my spy one radar

1393
00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:42,599
um the three body prop oh my God

1394
00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:45,060
Almighty the three body problem series

1395
00:49:48,589 --> 00:49:47,099
Dan you're going to correct me because

1396
00:49:50,690 --> 00:49:48,599
it's not the three body problem series

1397
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:50,700
is it I literally just thought that you

1398
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:53,760
know me too I wish we just need to

1399
00:49:56,450 --> 00:49:54,900
change the name to three body problem

1400
00:49:57,770 --> 00:49:56,460
series is what everyone calls it it's

1401
00:50:00,410 --> 00:49:57,780
whatever knows it but that's the first

1402
00:50:02,809 --> 00:50:00,420
book the author calls it the

1403
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:02,819
um remembrance of Earth's past Trilogy

1404
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:03,839
yeah

1405
00:50:07,970 --> 00:50:06,480
um and and that really you'd get why

1406
00:50:09,650 --> 00:50:07,980
it's called that

1407
00:50:11,450 --> 00:50:09,660
um in book two and three because it

1408
00:50:13,550 --> 00:50:11,460
becomes much more of a historical kind

1409
00:50:15,530 --> 00:50:13,560
of hindsight thing recounting events and

1410
00:50:16,849 --> 00:50:15,540
how Society reacted to them we wouldn't

1411
00:50:19,309 --> 00:50:16,859
spoil it but obviously a three-body

1412
00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:19,319
problem got some that notoriety online

1413
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:21,540
Louis zondo had mentioned it hadn't he

1414
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,720
it was one of the first big sci-fi books

1415
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:27,359
out of China given their very

1416
00:50:31,790 --> 00:50:29,520
extract on what gets published in terms

1417
00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:31,800
of that sort of thing in China as well

1418
00:50:36,290 --> 00:50:34,440
um it got critical Acclaim and it was

1419
00:50:38,089 --> 00:50:36,300
translated into English that's why parts

1420
00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:38,099
of it can be a bit of a labor to get

1421
00:50:41,569 --> 00:50:40,200
through because of the translation there

1422
00:50:43,849 --> 00:50:41,579
are sometimes you'll read a sentence and

1423
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:43,859
go did I read that correctly and you go

1424
00:50:47,809 --> 00:50:45,839
back and it's just slightly misworded

1425
00:50:49,549 --> 00:50:47,819
but it's literally no more than a slight

1426
00:50:51,290 --> 00:50:49,559
miswording you you understand what it

1427
00:50:52,490 --> 00:50:51,300
means it's really interesting I never

1428
00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:52,500
got through the full first book just

1429
00:50:56,329 --> 00:50:54,300
because life got in the way but Netflix

1430
00:50:58,250 --> 00:50:56,339
commissioned and have made a series

1431
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,260
that's going to be out this year that

1432
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,520
I'm guessing that and you're very much

1433
00:51:03,290 --> 00:51:01,200
looking forward to as well but also

1434
00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:03,300
there's an animated version coming out

1435
00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:04,680
too isn't there

1436
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,540
there is yeah and I would say I'm

1437
00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:08,160
looking forward to that more mostly

1438
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:10,200
because one animation just allows you to

1439
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,520
do anything

1440
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,680
um I know CGI is pretty good these days

1441
00:51:17,210 --> 00:51:15,599
but the CGI gets quite Roby if you're

1442
00:51:19,250 --> 00:51:17,220
not if you don't have the budget you

1443
00:51:20,690 --> 00:51:19,260
know to make it look great so animated

1444
00:51:21,710 --> 00:51:20,700
you you can get a little more abstract

1445
00:51:23,089 --> 00:51:21,720
with

1446
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:23,099
um and also the Netflix series is

1447
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,960
directed by the guys that did Game of

1448
00:51:28,670 --> 00:51:26,640
Thrones and kind of just tanked that

1449
00:51:31,790 --> 00:51:28,680
last season uh so they they don't really

1450
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:31,800
have a lot of faith kind of behind them

1451
00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:34,319
um for this like really high concept

1452
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:37,260
really you know hard to digest in some

1453
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:41,760
ways uh sci-fi uh or be the worth it

1454
00:51:47,690 --> 00:51:45,240
like um content yeah concept yeah that

1455
00:51:49,250 --> 00:51:47,700
is a hard one to sum up so I'm not going

1456
00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:49,260
to be cruel I'm going to give you around

1457
00:51:56,030 --> 00:51:53,220
15 words one sentence to sum up what the

1458
00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:56,040
three body problem is about

1459
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,940
oh yeah I can do this uh so Humanity

1460
00:52:03,530 --> 00:52:01,680
detects a signal from another

1461
00:52:05,450 --> 00:52:03,540
civilization and it turns out that that

1462
00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:05,460
Civilization is coming to take the

1463
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,170
I think I counted there just off hand so

1464
00:52:16,609 --> 00:52:14,640
I kept it concise feel you failed

1465
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,619
miserably I asked it for it on the 31st

1466
00:52:20,210 --> 00:52:18,240
of October you presented it on the 12th

1467
00:52:22,190 --> 00:52:20,220
of January well done

1468
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:22,200
um so yeah um other series that are

1469
00:52:26,089 --> 00:52:24,240
coming out uh Leslie Kane's UFO series

1470
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,099
that people were worried was going to be

1471
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:28,079
down the pan because of a major at CNN

1472
00:52:31,549 --> 00:52:29,760
it was announced just in the last couple

1473
00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:31,559
of days as it's going to be National

1474
00:52:35,569 --> 00:52:33,660
Geographic has picked up which is owned

1475
00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:35,579
by Disney uh who own everything

1476
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:37,980
including me in this podcast and then so

1477
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,599
brilliant and Dan's winning is Mickey

1478
00:52:42,290 --> 00:52:41,280
Mouse ears as we speak

1479
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:42,300
um but no it's going to be on Disney

1480
00:52:45,170 --> 00:52:43,200
plus it's going to be a National

1481
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:45,180
Geographic um it's going to be on a few

1482
00:52:50,510 --> 00:52:48,480
different uh platforms to watch Hulu as

1483
00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:50,520
well and vice I think it is what a fun

1484
00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:52,200
name to say Hulu

1485
00:52:55,130 --> 00:52:53,940
um I've never watched anything on Hulu

1486
00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:55,140
even though we do have it here in the UK

1487
00:52:57,770 --> 00:52:56,760
it's not really as big as as in the

1488
00:52:59,089 --> 00:52:57,780
states

1489
00:53:01,250 --> 00:52:59,099
um so I think I watched some of the

1490
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,260
Marvel shows on Hulu uh but yeah that's

1491
00:53:04,970 --> 00:53:03,599
about it yeah it's it's going to be on a

1492
00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:04,980
few platforms folks it's good that it's

1493
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,780
still coming out and Dan you saw some

1494
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:08,400
teasers for it when you're at the entire

1495
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:10,800
anomalous conference uh Jay King yeah

1496
00:53:15,410 --> 00:53:13,680
James aendoli's um very quickly can you

1497
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:15,420
sum up what you saw

1498
00:53:18,650 --> 00:53:17,160
looks great contains some interviews

1499
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,660
with people we haven't seen before like

1500
00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:20,880
Helene Cooper who co-wrote the the 2017

1501
00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:23,099
New York Times article seems like it's

1502
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:24,300
going to be important to get that

1503
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,880
information yep uh next up Dan uh

1504
00:53:31,370 --> 00:53:28,800
blink182 related angels and Airbase

1505
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:31,380
related Tom delong's monsters in

1506
00:53:36,049 --> 00:53:32,880
California which we have seen a trailer

1507
00:53:38,569 --> 00:53:36,059
for that looks like I can uh

1508
00:53:43,309 --> 00:53:38,579
teen slasher movie

1509
00:53:47,510 --> 00:53:43,319
ghost story UFO movie all in one

1510
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:47,520
um Stoner romp potentially if it looks

1511
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:49,500
fun but Tom said there's a lot of the

1512
00:53:52,490 --> 00:53:50,880
ideas that he's talked about over the

1513
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:52,500
years have been put into this film and

1514
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:54,000
one of the things he wants to do with

1515
00:54:00,410 --> 00:53:56,460
the new direction of two of the Stars

1516
00:54:02,210 --> 00:54:00,420
the media Empire is to tell these sorts

1517
00:54:03,290 --> 00:54:02,220
of stories that he talks about if you

1518
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:03,300
follow him on social media and

1519
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:05,760
interviews through the form of you know

1520
00:54:08,809 --> 00:54:07,140
he's done it in books he's done it in

1521
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:08,819
song he wants to do it through movies

1522
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:10,920
and I think we're still waiting and

1523
00:54:15,049 --> 00:54:12,960
finding out the distributor for this is

1524
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:15,059
it going to go to Cinemas uh it'll be in

1525
00:54:21,230 --> 00:54:18,720
cartel the guys who made uh Tales from

1526
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:21,240
the Crypt okay uh the Crypt Keeper um so

1527
00:54:24,410 --> 00:54:23,040
yeah Stan spry is is the head of that

1528
00:54:26,890 --> 00:54:24,420
company and he's been working with his

1529
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:26,900
Tom to kind of do this stuff

1530
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,480
yeah I imagine streaming straight away

1531
00:54:34,609 --> 00:54:32,640
um which would be interesting because

1532
00:54:36,109 --> 00:54:34,619
I I get a feeling Tom's gonna hold this

1533
00:54:37,549 --> 00:54:36,119
till like Halloween or something like

1534
00:54:39,530 --> 00:54:37,559
that and then blink will be in full

1535
00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:39,540
swing so someone said to me the other

1536
00:54:44,450 --> 00:54:41,339
day do you do you hear for the truth or

1537
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:44,460
entertainment and I was like you can

1538
00:54:47,089 --> 00:54:45,599
kind of be both because we need the

1539
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,099
entertainment as an on-ramp to bring

1540
00:54:50,569 --> 00:54:48,720
people that aren't necessarily here

1541
00:54:51,290 --> 00:54:50,579
because they're obsessed with UFOs you

1542
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:51,300
know

1543
00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:52,740
um it's a really good way to bring them

1544
00:54:56,809 --> 00:54:54,839
on board and on that yeah there's people

1545
00:54:58,670 --> 00:54:56,819
who listen to the show purely for

1546
00:55:00,049 --> 00:54:58,680
entertainment and just have an interest

1547
00:55:02,450 --> 00:55:00,059
there's people who listen for a bit of

1548
00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:02,460
both there are people who purely enjoy

1549
00:55:05,569 --> 00:55:04,260
the science talk there are people who

1550
00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:05,579
like when I said I had Chris plain

1551
00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:07,140
coming on again not to Hype that but

1552
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,700
people were like oh brilliant science I

1553
00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:10,319
love the Science and Tech when it's

1554
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,540
entertained with UFOs there are others

1555
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:14,400
who love the more out there side of

1556
00:55:17,930 --> 00:55:15,839
things you know Paul Sinclair and has

1557
00:55:20,089 --> 00:55:17,940
stories about that you know night people

1558
00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:20,099
and and the hunman bay incident that

1559
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:21,180
we're going to talk about in a couple of

1560
00:55:26,329 --> 00:55:24,300
years Rick and Morty yeah yeah they're

1561
00:55:28,250 --> 00:55:26,339
eight people yeah nighttime Jerry

1562
00:55:29,569 --> 00:55:28,260
um there's there's a whole host of

1563
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:29,579
things and they don't all have to be

1564
00:55:33,170 --> 00:55:31,020
mutually exclusive and that's why when

1565
00:55:34,490 --> 00:55:33,180
we do these you try to you try to appeal

1566
00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:34,500
to everything because I think we've got

1567
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:35,940
that interest that you can see the

1568
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:37,920
entertaining side of things the things

1569
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,780
that I look at I've mentioned Andrew D

1570
00:55:43,130 --> 00:55:41,760
Bassey Azure before the guy who has

1571
00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:43,140
claimed to have basically time traveled

1572
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:45,300
to has jumped from to Mars with

1573
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:47,160
President Obama stuff I used to listen

1574
00:55:51,069 --> 00:55:48,960
to in YouTube for like four hours and I

1575
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:51,079
found fascinating do I believe it

1576
00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:54,420
probably probably didn't happen folks

1577
00:55:58,250 --> 00:55:55,859
unless President Obama comes out and

1578
00:56:00,170 --> 00:55:58,260
confirms he he knows that guy

1579
00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:00,180
um but it's interesting same with Linda

1580
00:56:04,670 --> 00:56:01,920
Moulton house stories that she tells of

1581
00:56:06,650 --> 00:56:04,680
other folks recounts of their stories

1582
00:56:08,569 --> 00:56:06,660
you know about Antarctica and things

1583
00:56:10,490 --> 00:56:08,579
like that it's it's entertainment for

1584
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,500
some for others it's infotainment and

1585
00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:12,000
then you know it's everything in between

1586
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:15,540
for other folks as well but yeah it's

1587
00:56:19,370 --> 00:56:17,760
it's another way to tell stories to a

1588
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,380
new generation especially through things

1589
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,359
like monsters in California for people

1590
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:23,040
who may not have an interest in the UFO

1591
00:56:26,569 --> 00:56:24,720
subject that get involved because of

1592
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:26,579
that because they hear someone in Rogan

1593
00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:28,319
because they see the three body problem

1594
00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:30,900
on Netflix because Lorella zondo's book

1595
00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:32,940
comes out and he does a nationwide tour

1596
00:56:37,849 --> 00:56:36,300
he'll get slated by some obviously for

1597
00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:37,859
making money by writers in his life

1598
00:56:41,450 --> 00:56:39,300
story and it was all a rose and he's a

1599
00:56:43,730 --> 00:56:41,460
grifter but so many more people are

1600
00:56:45,530 --> 00:56:43,740
going to pick up that and get involved

1601
00:56:46,609 --> 00:56:45,540
in the UFO topic because they see that

1602
00:56:48,349 --> 00:56:46,619
story

1603
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:48,359
it's happened before it'll happen again

1604
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:51,359
so that's that's just the nature of the

1605
00:56:55,309 --> 00:56:52,920
whole topic and it's no different to

1606
00:56:57,230 --> 00:56:55,319
many many other topics as well

1607
00:56:59,150 --> 00:56:57,240
yeah I would totally agree with that and

1608
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,160
and on that note hopefully this year

1609
00:57:03,530 --> 00:57:01,200
we'll see at least the first episode of

1610
00:57:05,870 --> 00:57:03,540
secret machines or maybe a trailer

1611
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:05,880
um of that TV series that the ttsa are

1612
00:57:08,930 --> 00:57:08,160
making with Legends thinking trailer at

1613
00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:08,940
best

1614
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,920
probably trailer it will get some

1615
00:57:14,930 --> 00:57:12,960
casting news probably and you know see

1616
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:14,940
it kind of developing but I'm excited

1617
00:57:20,510 --> 00:57:17,040
for that one because that's uh kind of

1618
00:57:21,950 --> 00:57:20,520
like a Dan Brown but with UFOs it kind

1619
00:57:23,690 --> 00:57:21,960
of incorporates a bunch of history and

1620
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:23,700
it'll just get people's gears turning a

1621
00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:25,920
bit like nope did you know where it was

1622
00:57:29,569 --> 00:57:27,780
talking about UFOs as a life form a

1623
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,579
little bit of a different approach to to

1624
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,960
get people just thinking of it I've

1625
00:57:33,650 --> 00:57:32,400
enjoyed the audiobook I'm going through

1626
00:57:35,690 --> 00:57:33,660
the first secret machines and I'm

1627
00:57:37,010 --> 00:57:35,700
something like three-fifths of the way

1628
00:57:39,290 --> 00:57:37,020
through it one arbitrary on birthday

1629
00:57:40,730 --> 00:57:39,300
pack six tenths of the way through it

1630
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:40,740
just over halfway

1631
00:57:44,450 --> 00:57:42,000
um and it's been really impressed in the

1632
00:57:46,430 --> 00:57:44,460
jumping back and forward between the you

1633
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,440
know the Concentration Camp story that's

1634
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:48,480
part of it the Nazi Tech that's part of

1635
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,119
it you then go into the to modern day

1636
00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:53,280
you hear about things that happened in

1637
00:57:56,270 --> 00:57:55,260
the past and it's it's starting to kind

1638
00:57:58,609 --> 00:57:56,280
of come together which is really

1639
00:58:00,170 --> 00:57:58,619
interesting as well do do you do you

1640
00:58:01,970 --> 00:58:00,180
find that it kind of

1641
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:01,980
prompts you to like you'll read

1642
00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:03,359
something and kind of go wait is that

1643
00:58:08,089 --> 00:58:05,579
true and then go and Google it and then

1644
00:58:09,230 --> 00:58:08,099
you'll know because I'm listening to it

1645
00:58:13,370 --> 00:58:09,240
on audio

1646
00:58:14,930 --> 00:58:13,380
oh okay so I tend to be driving or

1647
00:58:16,370 --> 00:58:14,940
yeah I think it's always been what I've

1648
00:58:18,190 --> 00:58:16,380
been driving back and forward to Glasgow

1649
00:58:21,170 --> 00:58:18,200
if I've been myself okay

1650
00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:21,180
yeah yeah

1651
00:58:25,569 --> 00:58:22,740
um I need Apple to release like a mental

1652
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:25,579
note-taking app that um

1653
00:58:29,089 --> 00:58:27,300
there you go

1654
00:58:31,370 --> 00:58:29,099
um and one other thing that's coming out

1655
00:58:33,290 --> 00:58:31,380
this year um it's been coming out for a

1656
00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:33,300
few years now and I'm just interested oh

1657
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:35,460
go on I I was just gonna say you just

1658
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,720
mentioned neuraling so let's talk about

1659
00:58:41,930 --> 00:58:38,640
Danny Sheehan and the helmets oh I bet

1660
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:41,940
with cash plane uh okay

1661
00:58:46,849 --> 00:58:44,720
um yeah what did you think of that

1662
00:58:47,870 --> 00:58:46,859
very quickly tell people who might not

1663
00:58:49,130 --> 00:58:47,880
have heard that what you're talking

1664
00:58:50,990 --> 00:58:49,140
about first

1665
00:58:52,849 --> 00:58:51,000
so Danny Sheehan was on coast to coast

1666
00:58:56,270 --> 00:58:52,859
and he kind of dropped this this

1667
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:56,280
bombshell that uh they'd you know the

1668
00:59:00,349 --> 00:58:57,839
the Royal they

1669
00:59:02,510 --> 00:59:00,359
um had found basically helmets

1670
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:02,520
um uh crash sites uh that allowed a

1671
00:59:07,609 --> 00:59:05,760
telepathic interface with the UFO or the

1672
00:59:09,289 --> 00:59:07,619
ship to control it

1673
00:59:11,390 --> 00:59:09,299
um and it got people talking a lot

1674
00:59:14,270 --> 00:59:11,400
because they were just like this was

1675
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:14,280
mentioned in uh before before Roswell by

1676
00:59:18,410 --> 00:59:16,079
Corso um it's been in a number of

1677
00:59:21,049 --> 00:59:18,420
different you know TVs shows and movies

1678
00:59:23,390 --> 00:59:21,059
that were supposedly informed by kind of

1679
00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:23,400
people in the know that yeah there were

1680
00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:25,260
these helmets that they would put on to

1681
00:59:30,289 --> 00:59:28,140
kind of interface with the ship for me

1682
00:59:32,030 --> 00:59:30,299
the use of the word telepathy was

1683
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:32,040
interesting because telepathy usually

1684
00:59:35,630 --> 00:59:34,079
talks about you know two living beings

1685
00:59:38,329 --> 00:59:35,640
kind of talking without any interface

1686
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:38,339
between them as opposed to neuralink or

1687
00:59:41,650 --> 00:59:39,839
something like that which is called and

1688
00:59:43,549 --> 00:59:41,660
I'm going to mess this word up but

1689
00:59:45,049 --> 00:59:43,559
electroencephalography hey I pulled it

1690
00:59:46,370 --> 00:59:45,059
off but that's what it's called when you

1691
00:59:48,170 --> 00:59:46,380
put sensors on your head and kind of

1692
00:59:50,270 --> 00:59:48,180
read it and it kind of takes the magic

1693
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:50,280
away from it unless

1694
00:59:54,650 --> 00:59:52,079
as we have heard from many people the

1695
00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:54,660
ship is considered conscious and then

1696
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:56,520
you are interfacing telepathically with

1697
00:59:59,569 --> 00:59:57,359
it

1698
01:00:01,789 --> 00:59:59,579
um and the Grays kind of become

1699
01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:01,799
the ship's avatars and tools to go out

1700
01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:03,660
into the world and explore which is you

1701
01:00:09,530 --> 01:00:05,880
know the kind of a a new angle on it

1702
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:12,890
Danny Sheehan is an intelligent guy

1703
01:00:19,010 --> 01:00:15,599
he has a law a very interesting law

1704
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:19,020
background he has been involved with

1705
01:00:22,849 --> 01:00:21,119
many of the kind of top names in the UFO

1706
01:00:24,530 --> 01:00:22,859
topic over the years

1707
01:00:26,569 --> 01:00:24,540
all the way from you know Stephen Curry

1708
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,579
on one side to Luella zondo on the other

1709
01:00:30,530 --> 01:00:28,559
and other folks in between

1710
01:00:31,970 --> 01:00:30,540
and now and again he throws out these

1711
01:00:33,770 --> 01:00:31,980
incredible

1712
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,780
claims

1713
01:00:37,549 --> 01:00:35,760
and I get why you get people seeing and

1714
01:00:41,150 --> 01:00:37,559
I throw a poll for this I had like 2 000

1715
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:41,160
votes and largely let me let me find a

1716
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:42,960
poll Dan to Phil time for me for a

1717
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:45,359
second right I think yeah for sure while

1718
01:00:49,010 --> 01:00:47,280
you find the power I'll just kind of tee

1719
01:00:50,210 --> 01:00:49,020
up Danny spoke about

1720
01:00:52,490 --> 01:00:50,220
um an organization that's going to be

1721
01:00:54,530 --> 01:00:52,500
launched this year a 501c3 public

1722
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,540
interest organization to Shadow the work

1723
01:00:57,710 --> 01:00:55,920
of Arrow

1724
01:00:59,930 --> 01:00:57,720
um Gary Nola's on board he said it's

1725
01:01:02,809 --> 01:00:59,940
getting donations they've got facilities

1726
01:01:05,809 --> 01:01:02,819
they've got as I say donations

1727
01:01:07,609 --> 01:01:05,819
um they want to essentially shatter the

1728
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:07,619
work of arrows so that Congress and

1729
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:09,359
other people will know that Arrow aren't

1730
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:11,520
mucking around uh they'll have a bit

1731
01:01:14,030 --> 01:01:12,720
more freedom to talk about it there's

1732
01:01:16,370 --> 01:01:14,040
things called The Institute for

1733
01:01:17,870 --> 01:01:16,380
preparing uh Human family for contact

1734
01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:17,880
which will probably change that's quite

1735
01:01:22,609 --> 01:01:20,700
long the acronym is going to be awkward

1736
01:01:26,030 --> 01:01:22,619
um but this will be announced later in

1737
01:01:27,650 --> 01:01:26,040
2023 uh but yeah the idea is it'll be

1738
01:01:29,450 --> 01:01:27,660
based in La uh they're going to be

1739
01:01:32,089 --> 01:01:29,460
working on transparency and maximum

1740
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:32,099
public disclosure so thank you for that

1741
01:01:36,650 --> 01:01:34,799
the polar put up was I'm curious where

1742
01:01:38,750 --> 01:01:36,660
opinion sits when you hit a prominent

1743
01:01:40,430 --> 01:01:38,760
name like Danny Shane and the world of

1744
01:01:42,170 --> 01:01:40,440
UFOs say that there are recovered

1745
01:01:44,210 --> 01:01:42,180
helmets that help control our pilot

1746
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:44,220
craft where does your mind immediately

1747
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:46,200
go and the options for our excitement

1748
01:01:52,510 --> 01:01:49,200
nonsense curious or other uh excitement

1749
01:01:55,549 --> 01:01:52,520
got 18 nonsense about the same on 19.5

1750
01:01:58,430 --> 01:01:55,559
57 curious and five point five percent

1751
01:01:59,569 --> 01:01:58,440
other so I think still largely folk

1752
01:02:02,870 --> 01:01:59,579
leaning towards all that's really

1753
01:02:05,089 --> 01:02:02,880
interesting and yeah

1754
01:02:06,770 --> 01:02:05,099
for me that that's as far as it goes oh

1755
01:02:09,410 --> 01:02:06,780
interesting comment

1756
01:02:11,690 --> 01:02:09,420
I'd love I'd love to know more

1757
01:02:13,490 --> 01:02:11,700
yeah that's yeah and that's really that

1758
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,500
information is not there so yeah but

1759
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:15,359
that's why I like run to the streets

1760
01:02:18,890 --> 01:02:16,799
telling everyone yeah there were helmets

1761
01:02:19,609 --> 01:02:18,900
yeah exactly

1762
01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:19,619
um

1763
01:02:23,289 --> 01:02:21,540
I could make a joke there but I would

1764
01:02:25,789 --> 01:02:23,299
um

1765
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,799
I'll tell you off here

1766
01:02:29,210 --> 01:02:27,599
um the

1767
01:02:31,490 --> 01:02:29,220
that's why I like listening to Danish

1768
01:02:33,049 --> 01:02:31,500
Ian but also why I can see folks who

1769
01:02:35,870 --> 01:02:33,059
would say utter nonsense where's the

1770
01:02:37,250 --> 01:02:35,880
proof but I I don't mind that in the UFO

1771
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:37,260
subject people speculate and are

1772
01:02:40,970 --> 01:02:39,119
bringing stuff up it makes me go ah that

1773
01:02:42,650 --> 01:02:40,980
would be really cool

1774
01:02:44,329 --> 01:02:42,660
um the other documentary I was going to

1775
01:02:45,890 --> 01:02:44,339
mention that's due to come out but has

1776
01:02:48,289 --> 01:02:45,900
been coming out now for several years is

1777
01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:48,299
couple green which is a retrospective

1778
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:50,700
look at the rendition Forest incident

1779
01:02:53,870 --> 01:02:52,559
um from what I've seen and they're meant

1780
01:02:55,609 --> 01:02:53,880
to be coming on the podcast as they're

1781
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:55,619
going to do many others at the time for

1782
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:57,839
lunch is that they're putting a lot of

1783
01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:59,280
work into it that more people came

1784
01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:00,960
forward they're putting a lot of work

1785
01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:02,700
into the post-production

1786
01:03:07,789 --> 01:03:05,040
but it's been happening for a while now

1787
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:07,799
um so just a pure curiosity I really

1788
01:03:11,930 --> 01:03:09,420
want to see that and I'm going to give

1789
01:03:13,609 --> 01:03:11,940
him pulse and Claire who was on the

1790
01:03:15,349 --> 01:03:13,619
podcast last week in fantastically

1791
01:03:16,970 --> 01:03:15,359
popular guest and he was great yeah or

1792
01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:16,980
Paul was Paul was wonderful in a very

1793
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,660
different accent here on the podcast as

1794
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:20,640
well which is always nice

1795
01:03:24,890 --> 01:03:22,799
um he has a documentary coming out in

1796
01:03:28,430 --> 01:03:24,900
collaboration with a few others called

1797
01:03:31,010 --> 01:03:28,440
wolf lands which is uh if you're talking

1798
01:03:32,450 --> 01:03:31,020
to Skinwalker stuff that's that's what

1799
01:03:34,970 --> 01:03:32,460
we're looking at with wolf lands as well

1800
01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:34,980
so again Paul promises a high production

1801
01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:36,660
value which is always something I look

1802
01:03:39,589 --> 01:03:37,920
for you know that as well you're the

1803
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:39,599
same then and with a lot of very

1804
01:03:45,049 --> 01:03:42,960
interesting anecdotal and data within it

1805
01:03:46,190 --> 01:03:45,059
as well so look forward to both lands

1806
01:03:47,690 --> 01:03:46,200
coming out and Paul's going to be back

1807
01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:47,700
on in a couple of months to talk about

1808
01:03:52,130 --> 01:03:49,619
that too when it's released

1809
01:03:54,130 --> 01:03:52,140
and just to emphasize as well Paul said

1810
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,140
in the podcast that he was not expecting

1811
01:03:58,609 --> 01:03:56,640
for his kind of career to take him in

1812
01:04:00,170 --> 01:03:58,619
this direction no the Cryptids and stuff

1813
01:04:02,510 --> 01:04:00,180
like that it's just that the phenomena

1814
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:02,520
includes it so he has to kind of address

1815
01:04:07,069 --> 01:04:04,559
it I thought that was real interesting

1816
01:04:09,170 --> 01:04:07,079
and uh we mentioned Louis zondo's book

1817
01:04:10,910 --> 01:04:09,180
Dan Lewis said himself he hopes it's out

1818
01:04:14,270 --> 01:04:10,920
by the end of the year

1819
01:04:16,430 --> 01:04:14,280
um what are you expecting

1820
01:04:17,329 --> 01:04:16,440
so for me the the most exciting thing

1821
01:04:19,549 --> 01:04:17,339
about it

1822
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,559
um you know the IG document the IG

1823
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,119
complaint that he put in uh really

1824
01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:24,000
details chronologically kind of what

1825
01:04:27,710 --> 01:04:26,280
happened or set up onwards

1826
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:27,720
um I'm looking forward to hearing before

1827
01:04:31,490 --> 01:04:29,880
that lose experience with everything and

1828
01:04:32,870 --> 01:04:31,500
his work and things like that kind of

1829
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:32,880
like the lexford millions view with my

1830
01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:35,760
engraves right just let's kind of get an

1831
01:04:40,730 --> 01:04:37,500
idea of how

1832
01:04:42,349 --> 01:04:40,740
big of a deal Lou Alexander was uh in in

1833
01:04:43,970 --> 01:04:42,359
his career because we've heard from

1834
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:43,980
people in Australia um kind of

1835
01:04:47,870 --> 01:04:45,900
intelligence from people in the UK all

1836
01:04:49,309 --> 01:04:47,880
of them say this guy's a heavy hitter we

1837
01:04:50,690 --> 01:04:49,319
should listen to him

1838
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:50,700
um so we'll finally kind of get those

1839
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:54,000
bits of story but also when Lou submits

1840
01:04:58,250 --> 01:04:55,680
his book to kind of be reviewed by the

1841
01:04:59,390 --> 01:04:58,260
dod a bunch of departments there are

1842
01:05:00,829 --> 01:04:59,400
gonna say you can't say that you can't

1843
01:05:02,450 --> 01:05:00,839
say that you can't say that and they all

1844
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:02,460
have to if they redact it they'll be

1845
01:05:08,089 --> 01:05:04,799
listed as being one of the places the

1846
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:08,099
redacted stuff so we essentially get

1847
01:05:12,049 --> 01:05:10,260
given targets from this book to kind of

1848
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:12,059
say hey they're holding the public back

1849
01:05:15,289 --> 01:05:13,920
from talking about this stuff and

1850
01:05:17,809 --> 01:05:15,299
holding Lou back from talking about this

1851
01:05:20,569 --> 01:05:17,819
stuff so I I expect it will bring

1852
01:05:21,950 --> 01:05:20,579
probably some legislative language to

1853
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:21,960
kind of say this department specifically

1854
01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:24,240
has to start talking about XYZ

1855
01:05:29,450 --> 01:05:26,760
I hope we get some nuggets that people

1856
01:05:32,089 --> 01:05:29,460
go wow I didn't know that Lou has never

1857
01:05:34,370 --> 01:05:32,099
said that or he expands on some things

1858
01:05:36,349 --> 01:05:34,380
that he said but also gives us a little

1859
01:05:37,789 --> 01:05:36,359
bit more of a why he hasn't said it

1860
01:05:39,049 --> 01:05:37,799
because I'm sure there are going to be

1861
01:05:41,210 --> 01:05:39,059
numerous people out there who are ready

1862
01:05:43,010 --> 01:05:41,220
to jump on you've been asked that before

1863
01:05:44,809 --> 01:05:43,020
there may be questions I've asked him on

1864
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:44,819
a podcast that he never quite answered

1865
01:05:48,589 --> 01:05:47,280
or he said something different that he's

1866
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:48,599
going to give something else in the book

1867
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:50,880
and that's that's fine but I would just

1868
01:05:54,410 --> 01:05:52,559
love to see the reasons why or some

1869
01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:54,420
context as as far as he can go with

1870
01:05:58,130 --> 01:05:56,880
things as well so it's it's one I'm

1871
01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:58,140
looking forward to and let's prefer the

1872
01:06:03,230 --> 01:06:00,720
whole UFO Community whether they love or

1873
01:06:05,089 --> 01:06:03,240
hate Lou or have no feelings whatsoever

1874
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:05,099
are probably going to want to see or

1875
01:06:09,530 --> 01:06:07,440
hear about that anyway so that's that's

1876
01:06:11,210 --> 01:06:09,540
definitely one little no doubt I I

1877
01:06:13,549 --> 01:06:11,220
expect it'll be a very successful book

1878
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,559
yeah I mean that just

1879
01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:15,359
just through marketing alone and the

1880
01:06:19,130 --> 01:06:16,980
people who are publishing it it'll do

1881
01:06:20,990 --> 01:06:19,140
well so yeah there you go

1882
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:21,000
um any more media done before we move on

1883
01:06:24,650 --> 01:06:22,200
to the academy with Science and Tech

1884
01:06:29,809 --> 01:06:26,450
um

1885
01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:29,819
the Obama Betty Hill uh Bunny Hill

1886
01:06:33,170 --> 01:06:31,680
production I expect we'll see probably

1887
01:06:34,730 --> 01:06:33,180
again a trailer for that because it's

1888
01:06:37,609 --> 01:06:34,740
not in production yet

1889
01:06:39,049 --> 01:06:37,619
um but that will kind of look at uh you

1890
01:06:41,690 --> 01:06:39,059
know the lives of an interracial couple

1891
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:41,700
in the 1960s uh who have a horrifying

1892
01:06:46,130 --> 01:06:43,440
encounter with the UFO

1893
01:06:47,870 --> 01:06:46,140
um and having read the script I can say

1894
01:06:50,210 --> 01:06:47,880
that there are some really interesting

1895
01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:50,220
changes to the story for example the

1896
01:06:54,349 --> 01:06:52,079
ship is Tic Tac shaped it bounces around

1897
01:06:56,029 --> 01:06:54,359
like a ping pong ball at one point it

1898
01:06:58,490 --> 01:06:56,039
turns into a sphere rolls along the road

1899
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,500
and dips into the tarmac of the road and

1900
01:07:02,029 --> 01:07:00,480
then shoots upwards and leaves so little

1901
01:07:03,650 --> 01:07:02,039
things like that I'm just like oh that's

1902
01:07:06,170 --> 01:07:03,660
interesting that you would change that

1903
01:07:08,450 --> 01:07:06,180
specific thing and update it to kind of

1904
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:08,460
this trans medium idea

1905
01:07:11,870 --> 01:07:09,359
um

1906
01:07:14,270 --> 01:07:11,880
it also I don't want to spoil it because

1907
01:07:17,569 --> 01:07:14,280
it was a really cool story but

1908
01:07:20,329 --> 01:07:17,579
um it directly links kind of their civil

1909
01:07:22,609 --> 01:07:20,339
rights work of Barney and Betty with

1910
01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:22,619
their encounter with other worldly

1911
01:07:25,789 --> 01:07:24,240
beings uh so it's going to be

1912
01:07:28,430 --> 01:07:25,799
interesting seeing how people kind of

1913
01:07:29,809 --> 01:07:28,440
reckon with that cool awesome and I

1914
01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:29,819
think there's a lot of exciting media to

1915
01:07:32,329 --> 01:07:30,900
come as well

1916
01:07:34,609 --> 01:07:32,339
um and we'll see what comes out in terms

1917
01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:34,619
of the cinema world Loosely connected

1918
01:07:39,049 --> 01:07:36,720
things like Ant-Man Quantum Mania and

1919
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:39,059
the new Marvel phase with Multiverse you

1920
01:07:42,170 --> 01:07:40,559
know some of those ideas being explored

1921
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:42,180
there's always really interesting and

1922
01:07:44,990 --> 01:07:43,680
what we'll mention those as and when

1923
01:07:47,210 --> 01:07:45,000
they come out as well

1924
01:07:49,730 --> 01:07:47,220
we I should also say we will have a

1925
01:07:51,950 --> 01:07:49,740
season two of phenomenology yes sorry

1926
01:07:53,630 --> 01:07:51,960
um and we're pretty much Plan the first

1927
01:07:54,890 --> 01:07:53,640
night a bunch of us going up the

1928
01:07:56,329 --> 01:07:54,900
mountain with torches and we're gonna

1929
01:07:58,370 --> 01:07:56,339
kind of get some reference images of

1930
01:08:00,349 --> 01:07:58,380
what it looks like uh with us up the

1931
01:08:02,690 --> 01:08:00,359
mountain with torches versus what we

1932
01:08:04,250 --> 01:08:02,700
think were earthlights that we filmed uh

1933
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:04,260
so that's gonna be fun there'll be a

1934
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:05,760
whole new team of people some of which

1935
01:08:09,890 --> 01:08:08,400
people will know uh they'll be announced

1936
01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:09,900
in kind of due course but yeah I'm

1937
01:08:14,270 --> 01:08:11,460
excited for that one that should be a

1938
01:08:16,490 --> 01:08:14,280
fun trip and a very enlightening forward

1939
01:08:17,870 --> 01:08:16,500
step in the project unless traveling for

1940
01:08:21,530 --> 01:08:17,880
you than this time given you're not

1941
01:08:24,169 --> 01:08:21,540
going from the UK out to South America

1942
01:08:26,030 --> 01:08:24,179
yeah precisely yeah I'll be watching

1943
01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:26,040
from a distance here in the northeast of

1944
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:28,319
England folks you know in the shed in

1945
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:29,520
the cold

1946
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:32,040
um and finally then I think a few kind

1947
01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:34,799
of random bits to add on the James Webb

1948
01:08:38,150 --> 01:08:36,600
updates again Joe this year there are

1949
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:38,160
some photographs here to be presented in

1950
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:40,080
the near future I think those will

1951
01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:42,000
always be exciting because we're seeing

1952
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:44,100
some incredible images we're seeing some

1953
01:08:48,110 --> 01:08:46,319
images that we've already had but in

1954
01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:48,120
just far more detail than we ever

1955
01:08:52,970 --> 01:08:49,980
imagined we're seeing things appearing

1956
01:08:55,130 --> 01:08:52,980
that just weren't there previously and

1957
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:55,140
scientists astronomers are going what is

1958
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,880
that which I love that they're generally

1959
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:58,799
we never thought that would be there we

1960
01:09:02,269 --> 01:09:00,719
don't know what that is which is always

1961
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:02,279
really really interesting

1962
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:04,080
people think sorry there's a little

1963
01:09:09,470 --> 01:09:05,520
banging from the cleaners outside my

1964
01:09:14,450 --> 01:09:12,709
folk think Eureka is kind of the the

1965
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:14,460
sound of science being discovered but

1966
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:17,279
actually it's probably hmm we were wrong

1967
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:19,440
that's interesting is probably a much

1968
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,120
more propulsive moment

1969
01:09:25,970 --> 01:09:23,040
um for example James Webb Telescope is

1970
01:09:28,130 --> 01:09:25,980
finding that there are a lot a lot more

1971
01:09:30,110 --> 01:09:28,140
early galaxies than we thought they

1972
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:30,120
should be so that's going to take some

1973
01:09:33,410 --> 01:09:31,679
some kind of figuring out because it

1974
01:09:35,390 --> 01:09:33,420
seems that things weren't quite right

1975
01:09:37,070 --> 01:09:35,400
about calculations about the big bang

1976
01:09:38,329 --> 01:09:37,080
and things like that

1977
01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:38,339
um and of course some people think that

1978
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:39,779
there was no big bang and that the

1979
01:09:47,150 --> 01:09:43,679
universe is cyclical uh people like um

1980
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:47,160
oh damn I forget his name uh

1981
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:50,000
Carl Sagan knew the glass Tyson

1982
01:09:55,490 --> 01:09:54,000
no uh Roger I forget his name uh he won

1983
01:09:58,130 --> 01:09:55,500
a Nobel Prize

1984
01:09:59,570 --> 01:09:58,140
um no that was a grandson

1985
01:10:02,450 --> 01:09:59,580
he speaks about Consciousness as

1986
01:10:04,610 --> 01:10:02,460
fundamental to the universe uh

1987
01:10:06,290 --> 01:10:04,620
someone I guarantee listeners are going

1988
01:10:08,810 --> 01:10:06,300
to be screaming at the thing but it's

1989
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:08,820
just blank yeah

1990
01:10:12,830 --> 01:10:10,320
um but yeah well well I can see you're

1991
01:10:14,510 --> 01:10:12,840
looking at it so I'm just gonna Penrose

1992
01:10:16,250 --> 01:10:14,520
that's it Roger Penrose thank you so

1993
01:10:17,689 --> 01:10:16,260
much yeah his theory is okowa and he

1994
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:17,699
thinks that Consciousness is fundamental

1995
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:19,800
to the universe so we're going to have a

1996
01:10:23,330 --> 01:10:21,360
lot more about that

1997
01:10:24,169 --> 01:10:23,340
um because the science says that you

1998
01:10:25,970 --> 01:10:24,179
know we're wrong about the early

1999
01:10:28,250 --> 01:10:25,980
Universe some things that James White

2000
01:10:31,130 --> 01:10:28,260
but it's going to be exploring as well

2001
01:10:32,510 --> 01:10:31,140
um more planetary spectroscopy uh where

2002
01:10:33,890 --> 01:10:32,520
it just looks at the chemicals in the

2003
01:10:35,870 --> 01:10:33,900
atmosphere

2004
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:35,880
um will it pick up of signs of organic

2005
01:10:40,370 --> 01:10:38,159
chemistry in an atmosphere too hopefully

2006
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:40,380
this year we would find out

2007
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:42,480
um they're looking for small moons in

2008
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:44,640
the Martian system

2009
01:10:48,530 --> 01:10:46,560
um they're looking at the coldest image

2010
01:10:50,330 --> 01:10:48,540
exoplanet uh so we're looking at kind of

2011
01:10:53,450 --> 01:10:50,340
essentially Water World ice worlds so

2012
01:10:56,090 --> 01:10:53,460
there could be life there probing uh the

2013
01:10:57,770 --> 01:10:56,100
subsurface oceans of Europa which is

2014
01:10:59,689 --> 01:10:57,780
interesting because I don't know if

2015
01:11:01,130 --> 01:10:59,699
you've seen a 2001 A Space Odyssey but

2016
01:11:03,229 --> 01:11:01,140
there's a big thing about life being in

2017
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:03,239
the oceans on Europa and humans not

2018
01:11:06,890 --> 01:11:05,040
being able to visit it

2019
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:06,900
um so that's been kind of prevalent in

2020
01:11:11,570 --> 01:11:08,880
the Sci-Fi Community for years looking

2021
01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:11,580
at free floating planetary Mass objects

2022
01:11:14,689 --> 01:11:13,260
essentially planets that just aren't

2023
01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:14,699
part of a solar system and they're just

2024
01:11:18,530 --> 01:11:17,100
kind of floating through the Universe

2025
01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:18,540
um they would have some extreme

2026
01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:20,699
conditions looking at the center of the

2027
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:22,980
Galaxy as well at Sagittarius say that

2028
01:11:26,090 --> 01:11:24,239
black hole

2029
01:11:27,550 --> 01:11:26,100
um because yeah there are some really

2030
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:27,560
interesting kind of correlations between

2031
01:11:32,450 --> 01:11:30,719
the earth facing that and remote viewing

2032
01:11:35,149 --> 01:11:32,460
kind of being a bit more powerful in

2033
01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:35,159
those moments uh so I mean I don't

2034
01:11:38,330 --> 01:11:36,840
imagine that the James Webb team talk

2035
01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:38,340
about remote viewing but will certainly

2036
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:40,860
get to kind of put that data together

2037
01:11:43,490 --> 01:11:42,239
um and just generally kind of see him

2038
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:43,500
back further into the universe I'm

2039
01:11:47,930 --> 01:11:45,600
looking at large asteroids maybe things

2040
01:11:49,550 --> 01:11:47,940
like a muamua um not a Mumu because

2041
01:11:52,370 --> 01:11:49,560
that's kind of gone but similar things

2042
01:11:55,729 --> 01:11:52,380
to it and on that front will also be

2043
01:11:58,250 --> 01:11:55,739
kind of seeing the Galileo project uh

2044
01:12:01,310 --> 01:11:58,260
one kind of dragonness the Pacific Ocean

2045
01:12:02,510 --> 01:12:01,320
for an object that fell there um that is

2046
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,520
probably a meteor but it could be

2047
01:12:07,370 --> 01:12:05,280
anything it's extra solar as well as

2048
01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:07,380
their first peer-reviewed papers

2049
01:12:10,189 --> 01:12:08,760
um and the results kind of from their

2050
01:12:12,530 --> 01:12:10,199
sensor systems they've had set up

2051
01:12:15,470 --> 01:12:12,540
awesome and related to that the NASA

2052
01:12:17,870 --> 01:12:15,480
study that is currently underway with a

2053
01:12:19,850 --> 01:12:17,880
whole host of individuals not

2054
01:12:22,130 --> 01:12:19,860
necessarily UFO friendly as we've talked

2055
01:12:23,630 --> 01:12:22,140
about in the past is due to be concluded

2056
01:12:25,970 --> 01:12:23,640
in April

2057
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:25,980
um that again norfolks I think if you're

2058
01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:28,080
if you're looking at the UFO report this

2059
01:12:32,689 --> 01:12:30,480
came out it's very much a study that's

2060
01:12:34,910 --> 01:12:32,699
set up to decide whether this is worthy

2061
01:12:36,709 --> 01:12:34,920
of further investigation not one that's

2062
01:12:38,450 --> 01:12:36,719
necessarily going to throw up all look

2063
01:12:41,689 --> 01:12:38,460
what we found in the archives or here's

2064
01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:41,699
some interesting footage or here's a UFO

2065
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,320
we've caught on camera when we were

2066
01:12:48,530 --> 01:12:45,600
studying that's not what this is but

2067
01:12:52,729 --> 01:12:48,540
hopefully that bears some fruit that we

2068
01:12:55,250 --> 01:12:52,739
get a more well-funded well-rounded and

2069
01:12:56,930 --> 01:12:55,260
stringent program set up to really

2070
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:56,940
investigate the subject from that point

2071
01:13:00,530 --> 01:12:58,320
of view with NASA and they would

2072
01:13:02,149 --> 01:13:00,540
obviously tie into potentially Arrow as

2073
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:02,159
well

2074
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:04,080
yeah absolutely you know Bill Nelson the

2075
01:13:07,490 --> 01:13:05,520
head of NASA he was one of the first

2076
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,500
people briefed on those committees um so

2077
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,600
he would have seen you know that kind of

2078
01:13:15,229 --> 01:13:12,239
23 minutes of sci-fi that we were told

2079
01:13:16,669 --> 01:13:15,239
existed in the form of UAP footage so

2080
01:13:19,010 --> 01:13:16,679
yeah we'll see this study plan being

2081
01:13:21,709 --> 01:13:19,020
unveiled what they need to to kind of

2082
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,719
actually study this stuff and for all we

2083
01:13:25,070 --> 01:13:23,520
know in that report they could say yeah

2084
01:13:27,050 --> 01:13:25,080
we need access to the NASA archives

2085
01:13:28,430 --> 01:13:27,060
because it seems like there's um there's

2086
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:28,440
some you know there's some smoke there

2087
01:13:32,030 --> 01:13:30,239
so there could be some fire there too so

2088
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:32,040
we need to look like yeah that's

2089
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,840
forthcoming and that'll be exciting to

2090
01:13:37,490 --> 01:13:36,000
see and the final moments Dan anything

2091
01:13:39,950 --> 01:13:37,500
else that you think's worth shouting

2092
01:13:41,930 --> 01:13:39,960
about coming up in 2023

2093
01:13:43,550 --> 01:13:41,940
uh well I've got a few things so I'll

2094
01:13:45,530 --> 01:13:43,560
just I'll list them really concerned

2095
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:45,540
because I know we've gone over on time

2096
01:13:49,370 --> 01:13:47,280
uh so I'm sure we'll get some follow-up

2097
01:13:50,570 --> 01:13:49,380
to that Fusion news that we had um you

2098
01:13:52,729 --> 01:13:50,580
know they were using 20 year old

2099
01:13:54,290 --> 01:13:52,739
equipment that is now going to be

2100
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:54,300
applied to more modern equipment so we

2101
01:13:58,130 --> 01:13:56,040
could see some amazing results there

2102
01:14:00,770 --> 01:13:58,140
we're gonna get Chris bledsoe's book in

2103
01:14:02,570 --> 01:14:00,780
March uh UFO of God which whether you

2104
01:14:04,250 --> 01:14:02,580
agree or disagree it's information and

2105
01:14:05,810 --> 01:14:04,260
and you can kind of take it as you want

2106
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:05,820
you know it would be really interesting

2107
01:14:09,050 --> 01:14:07,199
whatever happened on that one my

2108
01:14:10,850 --> 01:14:09,060
interview with Chris is already arranged

2109
01:14:13,250 --> 01:14:10,860
it's just literally waiting on the book

2110
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:13,260
coming out to to talk about it so that

2111
01:14:16,610 --> 01:14:14,880
is that is happening for these questions

2112
01:14:18,610 --> 01:14:16,620
people that's sort of before or after

2113
01:14:21,530 --> 01:14:18,620
the book comes out

2114
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:21,540
about that time okay I don't even think

2115
01:14:25,850 --> 01:14:23,520
they've got an exact date yet but it

2116
01:14:28,330 --> 01:14:25,860
should be about the week of release

2117
01:14:30,530 --> 01:14:28,340
cool that that's the last one

2118
01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:30,540
then we've got I'm sure we'll see some

2119
01:14:34,010 --> 01:14:32,159
new books this year from like a masters

2120
01:14:35,330 --> 01:14:34,020
Graham Randall uh they're always very

2121
01:14:36,649 --> 01:14:35,340
exciting

2122
01:14:38,930 --> 01:14:36,659
um and they could have some excellent

2123
01:14:40,370 --> 01:14:38,940
covers I'd recommend some folk watch the

2124
01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:40,380
new series of Ancient Aliens because you

2125
01:14:44,930 --> 01:14:42,080
might see a familiar face in there too

2126
01:14:46,490 --> 01:14:44,940
yes Ryan Sprague is Ryan spread

2127
01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:46,500
something yeah

2128
01:14:50,810 --> 01:14:48,900
um there will also be an experience of

2129
01:14:54,169 --> 01:14:50,820
study taking place in Cardiff in the UK

2130
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:54,179
by Dr Daniel stubbins he's not kind of

2131
01:14:58,430 --> 01:14:56,159
talking to experiences to

2132
01:15:00,410 --> 01:14:58,440
to say whether their experiences are

2133
01:15:02,330 --> 01:15:00,420
real or not he's talking to them about

2134
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:02,340
what they need to be helped I think this

2135
01:15:06,169 --> 01:15:03,840
is a really good place to start from

2136
01:15:08,209 --> 01:15:06,179
because yeah we we just need to take it

2137
01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:08,219
seriously it's going to be UK based

2138
01:15:12,830 --> 01:15:09,780
eight to ten people

2139
01:15:14,750 --> 01:15:12,840
um if you're in the UK and you've had an

2140
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:14,760
experience and you know even consistent

2141
01:15:18,350 --> 01:15:16,980
experiences over your life uh get in

2142
01:15:20,330 --> 01:15:18,360
touch you know and you can pass things

2143
01:15:22,010 --> 01:15:20,340
on to me and I'll pass them on so now he

2144
01:15:23,330 --> 01:15:22,020
can pass them understand itself

2145
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:23,340
um and it would be good to just to help

2146
01:15:28,189 --> 01:15:25,679
that happen we will probably get a

2147
01:15:29,810 --> 01:15:28,199
follow-up to some of the phosphine on

2148
01:15:31,610 --> 01:15:29,820
Venus news

2149
01:15:33,530 --> 01:15:31,620
um it's been a little while now since we

2150
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:33,540
heard about that um a bunch of new

2151
01:15:37,490 --> 01:15:35,040
sensors are on their way to kind of the

2152
01:15:40,010 --> 01:15:37,500
planet to scan and see whether life is

2153
01:15:42,169 --> 01:15:40,020
there um or the processes of life

2154
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:42,179
still undecided some agree some disagree

2155
01:15:45,950 --> 01:15:43,920
but basically more science on that front

2156
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so we should hear something there and

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01:15:49,970 --> 01:15:48,179
then the last thing for me would just be

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01:15:51,890 --> 01:15:49,980
on the first of second and second of

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February this year

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um go outside and look up

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01:15:57,430 --> 01:15:55,580
um there'll be a comment called

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01:16:00,590 --> 01:15:57,440
c2022

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01:16:02,630 --> 01:16:00,600
e3ztf kind of a great name everyone

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01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:02,640
knows that one yeah it was only

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01:16:06,590 --> 01:16:05,280
discovered in March last year uh it

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01:16:08,450 --> 01:16:06,600
should you should be able to see it with

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01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:08,460
a naked eye but

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01:16:12,890 --> 01:16:10,800
um it's not been this close to Earth in

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01:16:14,570 --> 01:16:12,900
about 50 000 years so make sure to go

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01:16:16,729 --> 01:16:14,580
see it

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01:16:20,090 --> 01:16:16,739
awesome and hopefully it's not that

2172
01:16:21,709 --> 01:16:20,100
close to us right yeah we're slightly

2173
01:16:22,970 --> 01:16:21,719
off in your calculations and we end up

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01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:22,980
with God what was the movie that came

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01:16:25,490 --> 01:16:24,659
out last year but it was the oh look at

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01:16:28,370 --> 01:16:25,500
him

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01:16:30,410 --> 01:16:28,380
yeah don't look up don't look at it yeah

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01:16:32,689 --> 01:16:30,420
that was that was that was a fun watch

2179
01:16:34,189 --> 01:16:32,699
but yeah and interesting

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01:16:36,290 --> 01:16:34,199
um but yeah lesson folks thanks very

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01:16:37,729 --> 01:16:36,300
much for listening this far in

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01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:37,739
um this one's going to go out next up

2183
01:16:42,290 --> 01:16:40,080
we've got Crest plane on the podcast

2184
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:42,300
talking science technology and repented

2185
01:16:45,050 --> 01:16:43,440
at some of the things that are coming up

2186
01:16:47,090 --> 01:16:45,060
there as well really interesting chat

2187
01:16:49,729 --> 01:16:47,100
Steve Aspen will then be on to talk

2188
01:16:52,130 --> 01:16:49,739
about the intergenerational abduction

2189
01:16:53,870 --> 01:16:52,140
experience uh through his years of

2190
01:16:55,610 --> 01:16:53,880
research and investigations from his

2191
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,620
book out of time you can check that one

2192
01:16:59,930 --> 01:16:57,840
out and we'll be recording hopefully in

2193
01:17:02,209 --> 01:16:59,940
the next week or so then the missing 4-1

2194
01:17:03,890 --> 01:17:02,219
win the UFO connection review that we

2195
01:17:05,209 --> 01:17:03,900
watched Before Christmas people are

2196
01:17:06,770 --> 01:17:05,219
asking about the David polidies

2197
01:17:07,970 --> 01:17:06,780
interview again I've heard back from his

2198
01:17:09,530 --> 01:17:07,980
people today

2199
01:17:12,110 --> 01:17:09,540
um it was double booked I was literally

2200
01:17:13,970 --> 01:17:12,120
sitting ready to record the waiting and

2201
01:17:15,229 --> 01:17:13,980
uh David never showed up no no hard

2202
01:17:18,169 --> 01:17:15,239
feelings it happens he was just double

2203
01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:18,179
booked and it didn't didn't realize so

2204
01:17:21,890 --> 01:17:20,159
I'm waiting on a rescheduling but David

2205
01:17:23,570 --> 01:17:21,900
should be coming back on

2206
01:17:25,310 --> 01:17:23,580
um and then as the canal next couple of

2207
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:25,320
weeks go on I'll have some announcements

2208
01:17:30,050 --> 01:17:28,080
for guess for February as well a little

2209
01:17:32,750 --> 01:17:30,060
one on that Bryce Sable will be coming

2210
01:17:34,850 --> 01:17:32,760
on in February around president's week

2211
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:34,860
and Bryce suggested actually we do a

2212
01:17:38,450 --> 01:17:37,440
show around presidents and UFOs so that

2213
01:17:40,250 --> 01:17:38,460
is something about how they're talking

2214
01:17:41,570 --> 01:17:40,260
to with Bryce so looking forward to that

2215
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:41,580
one and make sure you check out brace

2216
01:17:46,010 --> 01:17:43,679
and Ross kiltarts podcast need to know

2217
01:17:47,930 --> 01:17:46,020
which is extremely popular always a good

2218
01:17:49,370 --> 01:17:47,940
listen and two very interesting

2219
01:17:50,810 --> 01:17:49,380
characters as well they've got great

2220
01:17:52,669 --> 01:17:50,820
voices for this kind of stuff don't they

2221
01:17:53,630 --> 01:17:52,679
they really do they did uh if people

2222
01:17:55,250 --> 01:17:53,640
aren't familiar with the Wilson

2223
01:17:57,169 --> 01:17:55,260
documents they did a reading of that

2224
01:17:58,790 --> 01:17:57,179
just before Christmas highly recommend

2225
01:18:00,050 --> 01:17:58,800
go and listen to it because yeah if you

2226
01:18:01,850 --> 01:18:00,060
can't be bothered to sit down and read

2227
01:18:04,370 --> 01:18:01,860
those documents there's not a more

2228
01:18:07,010 --> 01:18:04,380
entertaining way to do it in my opinion

2229
01:18:08,570 --> 01:18:07,020
well Dan thank you for joining me thank

2230
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:08,580
you for having me

2231
01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:11,040
and you know what Ross coldheart says to

2232
01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:12,840
anyone who he doesn't uh you know like

2233
01:18:17,330 --> 01:18:14,940
what they say

2234
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:17,340
have a good one folks that is all for

2235
01:18:21,229 --> 01:18:19,199
this week's show thank you very much for

2236
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:21,239
listening please remember to leave the

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01:18:26,810 --> 01:18:23,520
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01:18:28,850 --> 01:18:26,820
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01:18:30,890 --> 01:18:28,860
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01:18:32,750 --> 01:18:30,900
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01:18:35,390 --> 01:18:32,760
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01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:37,739
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01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:40,080
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01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:43,140
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01:18:47,689 --> 01:18:44,960
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01:18:49,550 --> 01:18:47,699
ufo-u-a-p-a-m and again folks as always

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01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:49,560
keep looking up you never know what you

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01:18:54,840 --> 01:19:19,590
champagne

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[Music]

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to the game

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01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:29,219
I can't imagine how it could have been

2253
01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:31,280
any better I got to the top of stairs

2254
01:19:40,930 --> 01:19:33,780
like you awake I was about to abduct you

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01:20:47,740 --> 01:19:43,070
[Music]

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not quite as awesome

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[Music]

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baby

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